Here's Whats Behind the Comeback of Vinyl and Printed Photographs

[Sirius Glass]

https://www.alternet.org/2019/10/he...tm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1678

 

[petrk]

Nice writing. Thank you.

 

[guangong]

Even with 20/20 vision, try reading an opera libretto or music commentary on the minuscule pieces of paper that is included in CDs. I was able to acquire a lot of albums for pennies on the dollar back when people were dumping their lps for cds. There is still a lot of great music that was not transferred to cd. I do enjoy listening to cds while driving.
Make the mistake only once of touching the wrong button to lose all pictures or have a faulty SD card resulting in no pictures at all is a good reason to use film. With film, the most you can screw up is 1, 12 or 36 pics. Digital has its place, but not for stuff of lasting value. Even Hollywood transfers digital movies to film for storage.

 

[awty]

When did they start calling them Vinyls?
Use to be just lp's or ep's or singles records.
I bought a lot of records in the 80's and by the time cd's came along I had a family and little to no disposable income, so about 12 years ago when I had money again I just continued buying records. Only have a shoe box filled with cd's and about 1000 lps, could live with just a few hundred, but people use to just give them away, like cameras.
To me records have a familiarity to them, like a warm memory. Film is similar. Although I often listen to digital streaming its only as a convenience, like digital images. To truly give me a connection it must be all hand made.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

When did they start calling them Vinyls?
Use to be just lp's or ep's or singles records.
I bought a lot of records in the 80's and by the time cd's came along I had a family and little to no disposable income, so about 12 years ago when I had money again I just continued buying records. Only have a shoe box filled with cd's and about 1000 lps, could live with just a few hundred, but people use to just give them away, like cameras.
To me records have a familiarity to them, like a warm memory. Film is similar. Although I often listen to digital streaming its only as a convenience, like digital images. To truly give me a connection it must be all hand made.

when did we start calling film, analog and BW monochrome?

 

[warden]

That is one ad crazy web site. The content is unavailable if you're using an ad blocker, and I see why. After allowing the ads they were everywhere, dwarfing the content.

 

[StepheKoontz]

Sites like that end up loading malware...

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Sites like that end up loading malware...

Why is that?

 

[wyofilm]

Interesting article. Not what I expected. Thanks.

 

[awty]

when did we start calling film, analog and BW monochrome?

Since there was a need to distinguish between digital and analog technology. Monochrome is for bw as well as other monotones. Never heard an lp record called a vinyl till this century. Its all confusing.

 

[abruzzi]

Since there was a need to distinguish between digital and analog technology. Monochrome is for bw as well as other monotones. Never heard an lp record called a vinyl till this century.

In my universe LPs were commonly called ‘vinyl’ as far back as the 80s. Then again, I was too young to know or care earlier than that.

 

[awty]

In my universe LPs were commonly called ‘vinyl’ as far back as the 80s. Then again, I was too young to know or care earlier than that.

Might of been a north American thing.

 

[abruzzi]

Might of been a north American thing.

that’s what I was thinking. It became noticeable as a counter to CDs—“do you have that in CD?” “Nay, my collection’s all vinyl.”

 

[awty]

that’s what I was thinking. It became noticeable as a counter to CDs—“do you have that in CD?” “Nay, my collection’s all vinyl.”

Ill just keep calling them records and film, film, even though I also have to explain its still film, not moving and b&w, b&w....except when I split tone and becomes monochrome.

 

[macfred]

That is one ad crazy web site. The content is unavailable if you're using an ad blocker, and I see why. After allowing the ads they were everywhere, dwarfing the content.

Same for me ...

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Vinyl in Germany too ... - I love mine (about 150 albums) playing on my Thorens turntable and an early 70's Pioneer receiver. Don't need more ... Ups, forgot to mention my Klipsch speakers.

 

[blockend]

It's possible to go from fuddy-duddy stick in the mud, to pretentious hipster by doing nothing.

 

[GLS]

That is one ad crazy web site. The content is unavailable if you're using an ad blocker, and I see why. After allowing the ads they were everywhere, dwarfing the content.

I use uBlock Origin and could read the article as normal (and with not a single ad). On the few occasions when I'm forced to browse without an adblocker (such as on a computer not my own) I'm always horrified at how obnoxious and widespread they have become.

Anyway, as to the article linked in the OP: the tangibility of both vinyl and analogue photography is definitely an aspect. However, in regard to vinyl specifically, in my view a very large part of its resurgance is a by-product of the loudness wars. The invention of the CD (and digital music generally) allowed the music to be compressed/brickwalled to within an inch of its life, which if done sacrifices all the dynamics (which are a natural part of music) for the sake of volume, and makes it incredibly unpleasant & fatiguing to listen to for more than 5 minutes. This practice really only started gaining traction in the mid-90s however, and reached its apogee in the early-to-mid 2000s (coinciding with the rise of the iPod), when the whole vinyl counter culture kicked off again. Music mastered for vinyl cannot (out of necessity) be compressed to anywhere near the same degree, otherwise there is a real risk of losing tracking during playback (i.e. the needle can literally jump out of the groove). This, I believe, is the number one reason so many people seem to prefer the "sound of vinyl". Of course, digital music always could be (and still sometimes is) produced well and with all its dynamics intact, but that is not what the "wisdom" of the music industry bean counters demanded, and therefore such efforts were always marginalised.

Since the aforementioned mid-2000s dark days, there has been a (very) slow general reversal in the degree to which mainstream music is compressed, but it still remains far too much IMO.

 

[mklw1954]

In "The Revenge of Analog: Real Things and Why They Matter", David Sax describes how handling real things (film, books, LPs and turntables, board games) adds to the experience, providing more satisfaction than the digital counterparts.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Calling records vinyl became common when CDs first came out so that one could distinguish between the two.

 

[k.hendrik]

Not necessary true but very interesting article to read while listening to 'Cowgirl in the sand' on my Dual 506 / Vincent 123 & KEF Calinda's. Thanks!

 

[__Brian]

LP's, EP's, and 45's.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

I like printing, no computer needed to see pictures.
I like LP, because it has pictures, text and even poster.
I guess, it became all wrong at some point.
I have read article today written by one technician I know. He goes on and on about digital vs vinyl records, but in his gearhead the part what tell about LP just been nice to have as reference without dinking with computer is empty.

 

[awty]

Not necessary true but very interesting article to read while listening to 'Cowgirl in the sand' on my Dual 506 / Vincent 123 & KEF Calinda's. Thanks!

I would of thought a Lenco being from the Netherlands. I use a Lenco, not many of the original parts, but its heart is all Lenco, actually just the motor, platter and idler wheel are still original. It has two tonearms and electronic speed control. She stop working last night, now fixed and playing Rodriguez.

 

[awty]

I use uBlock Origin and could read the article as normal (and with not a single ad). On the few occasions when I'm forced to browse without an adblocker (such as on a computer not my own) I'm always horrified at how obnoxious and widespread they have become.

Anyway, as to the article linked in the OP: the tangibility of both vinyl and analogue photography is definitely an aspect. However, in regard to vinyl specifically, in my view a very large part of its resurgance is a by-product of the loudness wars. The invention of the CD (and digital music generally) allowed the music to be compressed/brickwalled to within an inch of its life, which if done sacrifices all the dynamics (which are a natural part of music) for the sake of volume, and makes it incredibly unpleasant & fatiguing to listen to for more than 5 minutes. This practice really only started gaining traction in the mid-90s however, and reached its apogee in the early-to-mid 2000s (coinciding with the rise of the iPod), when the whole vinyl counter culture kicked off again. Music mastered for vinyl cannot (out of necessity) be compressed to anywhere near the same degree, otherwise there is a real risk of losing tracking during playback (i.e. the needle can literally jump out of the groove). This, I believe, is the number one reason so many people seem to prefer the "sound of vinyl". Of course, digital music always could be (and still sometimes is) produced well and with all its dynamics intact, but that is not what the "wisdom" of the music industry bean counters demanded, and therefore such efforts were always marginalised.

Since the aforementioned mid-2000s dark days, there has been a (very) slow general reversal in the degree to which mainstream music is compressed, but it still remains far too much IMO.

I did a blind test using my son once, comparing a record, a cd and mp3 of the same track. He preferred the mp3 as he said there was too much extra noise around the guitar playing with the record. I explained that was the natural string resonance that is lost once compressed, but he was use to listening to compressed music. I on the other hand heard my first good quality hifi system when I was 18 and went out and spent 3 month pay on my first hifi system (worked full time and lived at home, no girl friend, so had plenty of money). There is quite a difference in sound quality if you care for that, but you first need a good recording to make the most of it. Bit like photography. I can see a big difference between a quality print made from a 8x10 negative and a 35mm negative, but a lot of people wont.

 

[George Mann]

These clueless authors are always dead wrong when it comes to the so-called resurgence of vinyl records. It is driven primarily by high end listeners, and the industry that caters to us!