Help with Shutter release on Super Ikonta 530/2

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Hey I picked up a super Ikonta 530/2 and accidentally fired it in T shutter mode instead of Bulb. Does anyone know how to get the shutter to close again?
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Push the shutter release a second time

Ok, that’s what I tried but it stayed open unfortunately. Would you happen to know how to try and repair it?

It appears the shutter release button is stuck depressed
 
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At a minimum, it sounds like the shutter needs a complete overhaul. The body may too. From the minimal information you provide it’s impossible to tell for sure. Neither situation is really amenable to a “quick fix” unless one already knows what they’re doing. You may have a camera that is candidate for complete restoration.
 
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Ok, that’s what I tried but it stayed open unfortunately. Would you happen to know how to try and repair it?

It appears the shutter release button is stuck depressed

You could try gently moving the speed selector dial to one of the "defined" speeds - that may prompt the shutter to close. But be gentle! If it doesn't want to turn, then don't force it.
Most Compur shutters will respond to the changing of the speed selector by closing the shutter. But what all this tells you is that the shutter needs servicing.
 

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It appears the shutter release button is stuck depressed
Uh... huh? Has this been fixed yet? Can you put a cable release in the shutter button and pull it up? If the mechanism that pushes the shutter release on the shutter body is still depressed, then the shutter can't do the cycle for the T setting. At the shutter itself you will see a small stub sticking out that is pressed by a flat black tab. This black tab is pushed by the shutter release button up top. Try rotating it away from the shutter body?

You need to figure out why the shutter button is staying down. In the meantime, if you get this straightened out, you can test the shutter itself at he shutter block directly and not use the shutter release button and mechanism on the camera body.
 
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Uh... huh? Has this been fixed yet? Can you put a cable release in the shutter button and pull it up? If the mechanism that pushes the shutter release on the shutter body is still depressed, then the shutter can't do the cycle for the T setting. At the shutter itself you will see a small stub sticking out that is pressed by a flat black tab. This black tab is pushed by the shutter release button up top. Try rotating it away from the shutter body?

You need to figure out why the shutter button is staying down. In the meantime, if you get this straightened out, you can test the shutter itself at he shutter block directly and not use the shutter release button and mechanism on the camera body.
You could try gently moving the speed selector dial to one of the "defined" speeds - that may prompt the shutter to close. But be gentle! If it doesn't want to turn, then don't force it.
Most Compur shutters will respond to the changing of the speed selector by closing the shutter. But what all this tells you is that the shutter needs servicing.
Thank you both for the input! So it turns out it did fire in Bulb not T, but the button stayed pressed. I can turn the speed selection only towards T which half closes the shutter, but again the button stays pressed. Moving the Cocking lever closes the shutter momentarily but it doesn’t stay cocked.

The shutter release button on this model is only located below the lens and not on the body. I feel like the rod connecting from the release to the button maybe has come unaligned but I don’t have another similar model to compare. What do you think?
 

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The way my Fuji GW690's shutter died was by firing it in T mode with a several minute exposure. This is because there was dirty grease on the shutter blades which eventually caused them to stick together.

After that, you could get it to fire and the shutter blades moved, but not enough to open/close. Agreed with others that said it's a sign it needs servicing.

Yours might be that, or some other part that's sticking. I'd gently try all permutations I could of the controls without forcing anything too hard.

Oh, and some cameras work if you activate them by cable release instead of the normal trigger.
 

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I've not seen that style of release on these cameras myself. Looks like a basic lever, with a pivot underneath the shutter block connector. I would simply study the motion. Look for bends in the straight parts. Add some oil to the pivot point. Clean and oil sliding points. Avoid any bending until you are certain that you can't exercise/lube the drag away.
 

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I have a Moskva 2 which is a fair soviet copy of your SuperIkonta, but I cannot answer your question, because on the Moskva there is no T setting only B.
The lens is an Industar 23 (4.5/11cm) and the shutter a Moment 1 (B, 1..1/250) which all speeds seem correct.
 
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