Bighead said:I am in final stages of completing my own darkroom. This space will be used by two photographers ALOT as well as the occasional friend. I have been using school facilities for some time... I am adept at mixing school chemicals (D76 and other basics) as well as using some Tmax dev. for Tmax film.... Thats about it.
I own the "Darkroom Cookbook" and this place seems to be a great resource but chemcals are just a little intimidating to me. I'm torn between keeping things simple and experimenting with all kinds of stuff. I'd like to mix my own stuff as opposed to buying mixes.
Is there a good developer that can be standardized easily and maybe tweaked here and there, to do other things? What are good, easy Stops and Fixes?
Anyone have any advice on the matter?
I'd like to experiment but I think I'm still wet enough behind the ears that I may not notice the differences... I think I want to keep a standard going for the most part... Try new things when I've run out of ideas on what to work on... You know?? I'm kind of a control freak and I think I value consistancy more than anything. I know, not great words coming from an "artist"...Nick Zentena said:If you really wanted you could try a different developer with each roll. I wouldn't reccomend it but the only thing stopping you is your willingness to experiment.
I'm steering away from Tmax films and am using mostly Ilford. I may use something slow one day and Delta 3200 the next...apratsunrthd said:You'll find that the type of film you use may yield radically different results in various developers.
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I own the "Darkroom Cookbook" and this place seems to be a great resource but chemcals are just a little intimidating to me. I'm torn between keeping things simple and experimenting with all kinds of stuff. I'd like to mix my own stuff as opposed to buying mixes.
Is there a good developer that can be standardized easily and maybe tweaked here and there, to do other things? What are good, easy Stops and Fixes?
Anyone have any advice on the matter?
Thats one I was looking for... A standard recipe with a good "tweak" factor.... I will give that a shot, at first.... Everyone, thank you for your advice thus far... Please keep the comments coming.Ole said:You will then have enough chemicals to use D-23 for fine grain, two versions of "divided" D-23 with different contrast and grain size, as well as "Beutler's" for maximum sharpness (and grain) with slow films.
John Bartley said:... I like things simple, so I bought the raw
chemicals and mix my own D23. I use it divided
and develop both film and paper in it. ...
dancqu said:D23, 7.5 grams metol and 100 grams sodium sulfite,
is a complete film developer in itself. You then use
a bath 2 for further development; some alkali?
Do you use two bath for both film and paper?
Is that second bath the same for the two?
I compound all chemistry used and use
all one-shot. Dan
John Bartley said:The second bath for me is sodium metaborate, which I think Ole has identified as Borax and which I seem to remember also being called "washing soda"?
John Bartley said:This would be an opinion, NOT advice. I have only been at this for about 8 months, so very much the beginner. I like things simple, so I bought the raw chemicals and mix my own D23. I use it divided and develop both film and paper in it. It's simple, easy to mix, easy to use and cheap enough. My next self mixes are going to be stop and fix so that I can reduce darkroom odour.
cheers
Donald Qualls said:FWith some divided developers, one needs to also watch for oxidation of the developing agent -- Divided D-76 is one where brownish discoloration of Bath A may be cause for replacement, just as it would be with stock solution of conventional D-76. Discoloration of Bath B is generally unimportant with true divided developers.
Ole said:I hope I haven't done that - you list three very different alkalis there!
Metaborate can be made by mixing borax and lye at a very exact ratio, and is more alkaline than borax. "Washing soda" I believe is sodium carbonate, which is even more alkaline.
All these alkalis can be used as bath "B", however. They will also give different results!
John Bartley said:A quick guess here. Will a stronger alkali cause a faster development in the "B" bath due to more vigourous activation of the developer?
Maine-iac said:Check out my article in the "Chemistry Recipes" section on Divided Paper Developers. In addition to formulas, it gives a description of the technique and its advantages.
If you like to play around a bit, I experimented for awhile with a developer I called D-23C. I reduced the amount of sulfite considerably and added a bit of ascorbic acid which is also superadditive with Metol. Worked well. But later, I became more attached to the Phenidone/Vitamin C formulas that Pat Gainer worked on, and that he and I and others have given formulas for in other posts on this forum. I rarely use Metol anymore or Sulfite (one of the more expensive chemicals in your arsenal.)
Larry
dancqu said:Borax is an alkali though it does not serve as such
in D76. I say that though the sulfite is half the usuall
amount, as you have stated. Borax is though
an alkali. Is that all you ment to say? Dan
Donald Qualls said:In general, unless there's a buffering agent present, the pH of a solution is determined by the strongest alkali present -- so if you have both sulfite and borax, the borax determines the pH and we use the shorthand of saying the borax acts as the accelerator or alkali in that developer. If there were (for some reason) both borax and sodium carbonate, the carbonate would act as the alkali because it produces a higher pH than the borax (one might do this with very low levels of carbonate to produce a graded developer, which will exhaust from high activity to low via neutralization of the tiny amount of carbonate, allowing pH to drop to that provided by the borax -- though I've never heard of a developer that does this). Sulfite, in most developers, acts only as a preservative (and silver solvent, if there's enough and the developing time is long enough), because there is a stronger alkali present in sufficient quantity not to be neutralized during development.
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