Help!- wasps invading my darkroom

Rob Archer · Jun 15, 2006

I haven't been able to get in my darkroom for a couple of weeks now as there are always 2 or 3 wasps in there. I'm allergic to wasp stings so I can't take the risk. Fortunately, there's no sign of them nesting, but I'd like to know if any of the normal chemical insect sprays are safe to use anywhere near photographic materials. Anybody else had this problem?

Rob

Lachlan Young · Jun 15, 2006

Why not use an acid stop bath?
Contact your local pest control people and let them have the fun of dealing with the wasps - how did the wasps get in?

Lachlan

TheFlyingCamera · Jun 15, 2006

I don't know about normal bug sprays that might be darkroom safe, but one tip for you- if you need something household-safe to take down wasps and/or other flying insects, Windex with Ammonia does an amazing job. The ammonia dissolves their wings and they drop out of the sky, then it dissolves their exoskeleton, and they suffocate on the ammonia fumes. Nasty way to go, but better them than you.

If there are always a few of them in your darkroom, I suspect they have a nest you just can't see - either in the ductwork or behind the walls/ceiling.

DBP · Jun 15, 2006

I haven't had a problem with them in the darkroom, but they are a constant problem on the boat. I would try a wasp trap, which is basically a soda bottle with a narrow mouth attached like this one http://www.groworganic.com/item_PIT920_SodaBottleWaspTrap.html.

Then get someone who is not allergic to find and remove the lnest. The wasps we have here are not aggressive, but I don't know about English species.

ricksplace · Jun 15, 2006

Those White Anglo Saxon Protestants are everywhere.

(sorry -I couldn't resist)

BWGirl · Jun 15, 2006

DBP said:
... The wasps we have here are not aggressive, but I don't know about English species.

Maybe not in your neck of the woods, but the ones up here get down right surly! Especially if it's really hot!

Bob F. · Jun 15, 2006

Sure they are wasps? Might be bees or hoverflies - I can never tell the difference - usually too busy moving in the opposite direction! Only bumblebees are easily distinguishable to me...

Without a source of food, I think the wasps/bees would be dead in a day if locked in the room. If wasps are always about then you may have a nest nearby. If so, the simplest solution is to call the local council who will destroy it (might charge 20 or 30 quid). If they are bees, find your local apiarist and they will probably remove the bees for you FOC if there is a hive nearby (if they turn out to be wasps, they might kill them FOC too - not a great fan of wasps, your average beekeeper!).

To kill a wasp's nest yourself I found that the powder insecticides that you can buy for that specific purpose worked very well.

Good luck, Bob.

DBP · Jun 15, 2006

BWGirl said:
Maybe not in your neck of the woods, but the ones up here get down right surly! Especially if it's really hot!

Really hot? In Wisconsin? Try DC in August, or points south any time after this month.

Lopaka · Jun 15, 2006

DBP said:
Really hot? In Wisconsin? Try DC in August, or points south any time after this month.

But you have to understand, after getting used to that -40 winter weather, Wisconsinites (and folks in northern Mich as well) start whining about the heat when the temp gets above 65F.

The aggressive wasps are European imports - those native to North America nest in the ground. If they are attaching their nests to buildings etc they are the other kind - the ones that show up en masse and steal the hamburger off your plate when you do backyard barbeque.

Bob

Papa Tango · Jun 15, 2006

Bang...

You could always shoot them, and see what develops....

gnashings · Jun 16, 2006

I was going to suggest that for a person with allergies, I would leave it to professionals. But I am still under the influence of the customer service related thread going on elswhere on APUG and realized that trying to get answers from people who are supposed to know them might make an allergic reaction and a trip to the emergency room seem more pleasing.
All I know about wasps is that if there are two or three always present then it is an issue of nearby or concealed nesting - I would bet you just haven't found the tricky little place and the tricky little way they use to access it, and your darkroom. Its amazing how little room they need for either. If not professional help, someone who is likely to suffer less dire consequences from a potential sting should go in there and perfom a more thorough inspection that you would under the duress of fearing a potentially very harmful sting.

Peter.

p krentz · Jun 16, 2006

TheFlyingCamera said:
I don't know about normal bug sprays that might be darkroom safe, but one tip for you- if you need something household-safe to take down wasps and/or other flying insects, Windex with Ammonia does an amazing job. The ammonia dissolves their wings and they drop out of the sky, then it dissolves their exoskeleton, and they suffocate on the ammonia fumes. Nasty way to go, but better them than you. If there are always a few of them in your darkroom, I suspect they have a nest you just can't see - either in the ductwork or behind the walls/ceiling.

I tried the Windex w/ammonia, it dissolved the wings, but he kept walking around looking like he had an attitude. Going to add more ammonia. Pat

TheFlyingCamera · Jun 16, 2006

Well, once they're down, you can swat them at your leisure. If you get the kind of Windex that clings to the glass, it's even nastier for the bug.

lesd · Jun 17, 2006

I had two hornets (big wasps) in my darkroom/attic recently. To be quite honest it is too hot to go in there during the day at this time of year.

Les

BWGirl · Jun 17, 2006

Lopaka said:
But you have to understand, after getting used to that -40 winter weather, Wisconsinites (and folks in northern Mich as well) start whining about the heat when the temp gets above 65F.

The aggressive wasps are European imports - those native to North America nest in the ground. If they are attaching their nests to buildings etc they are the other kind - the ones that show up en masse and steal the hamburger off your plate when you do backyard barbeque.

Bob

Those are the ones! Blasted things! And trust me... it gets hot here... and humid. Right now (it's 12:28pm CST), it's 88deg F, and the humidity is 59%. We are located on a large body of water, you know! heheheh

If you are allergic (I am as well, so I know your concerns) you can either battle them yourself (with an EPI-pen in one hand & wasp spray in the other), or get someone who's not allergic to take care of it for you. Have them seal any place where the devils are coming in, too. Good luck!

raucousimages · Jun 17, 2006

W.A.S.Ps? White Anglo Saxon Protestants? Just ask them to leave. Most of them are very polite people.

Rob Archer · Jun 18, 2006

Thanks all!

I called in the local council (round within 20 minutes!!!). The nest was in a shed next door (phew!) and the guy reckoned they liked the smell in my darkroom! Alternatively, he reckons they might have been hibernating in the roof space and got in somehow. I haven't seen any in there since yesterday morning and I've re-sealed around any visible cracks with duct tape. When they first appeared I was selenium toning some prints and in my hurry to escape I left a trayful out - maybe the ammonia fumes got to them! Hopefully I can get printing again tomorrow!

Rob

DBP · Jun 18, 2006

Weren't the local council mostly W.A.S.P.s too?

Daniel_OB · Jun 18, 2006

How about double-barel?

Just joking. I would ask some friend to solve the problem with newspaper or similar. Chemicals can affect you lens too. Or just leave it several days in and they are death.

Bob F. · Jun 18, 2006

DBP said:
Weren't the local council mostly W.A.S.P.s too?

Quite likely... Norfolk was one of the main Anglo Saxon settlement areas when they migrated to (i.e. invaded) what was to later become England.

Indeed, "Norfolk" itself is of Anglo Saxon / Old English origin (which is itself mostly from Old Norse): i.e. "Nordfolc" (land of the northern people). That part of eastern England is called East Anglia. It does not take an expert linguist to translate that as having come from the Old English for the "Eastern Angles".

The Church of England is Protestant of course. Skin colour is highly variable however.

Here endeth the history lesson...

Cheers, Bob.

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