Help me finish my research project - Looking for photographs of a long-defunct school from Hoboken, NJ

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Hello,

I’m new to the forum, I hope I’ll find someone to help me here.

I need assistance with a research project that I’ve been working on for a while. I've already posted about this topic in other online forums but wanted to try here as well.

My research is set in the city of Hoboken, New Jersey, encompassing a period between the late nineteenth century and the early decades of the twentieth century. I’m primarily interested in finding photographic material related to one of the oldest schools in the city: School No. 1. I’m trying to identify one of the teachers who worked there between 1877 and 1914, so I aim to locate as many of these pictures as possible.

The original Hoboken School No. 1 was established in the mid-19th century at 305 Garden Street. In 1914 the original building closed down after a new one was built on the corner of Third and Garden Street. This new version of School No. 1 was renamed David E. Rue School.
Although there are a few photos and postcards available online showing the exterior and facade of the original building (you can find one here) I’m more interested in pictures that depict the school members at any time during the existence of the original school, i.e., prior to 1915. Specifically, I’m trying to identify one of the teachers who worked there between 1877 and 1914, Nellie P. McCain, so I aim to locate as many of these pictures as possible.

Photographs of teachers and pupils from this school exist and are available online. The Hoboken Historical Museum and the Hoboken Public Library have examples of School No. 1 digitized photos on their website. This one, preserved and digitized by the Hoboken Public Library, is a perfect example of what I’m looking for. In the case of the Museum, their website only displays this photograph from 1918, a date that exceeds the time frame I’m interested in. Both the Museum and the Library already confirmed to me that they don’t keep any other similar photos.

I’ve written to many archives and institutions (Including, for reference, The Jersey City Public Library, The New Jersey State Library, Hoboken's Historical Museum and Public Library, the New Jersey Historical Society and Hoboken's Historic Preservation Commission) and I was told by all of them that they don’t have the exact material I’m looking for.

I wanted to ask for advice on this forum on how to proceed with the search and perhaps ask for possible contacts around New Jersey/Hudson County/Hoboken who may know what I need. I would be really grateful if someone could help me with this issue. There are still a few university archives I need to write to, but at this point I am more interested in alternative search avenues, perhaps focused on contacting collectors or locating private vintage yearbooks and photo albums.

One important thing to add is that I’m not located in the United States, so traveling for in-person research and meetings is almost impossible for me.

One last thing: I'm not sure if my private messages are open, as my account is very new. If you want to talk to me, let me know in the comments and we'll see.
 

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Wow...that is a very specific research topic.
I wish you the best of luck.
I have nothing to contribute other than that my late father grew up in Hoboken in the 1920's and 1930's.
IIRC, Frank Sinatra grew up in Hoboken...maybe investigating his childhood can lead to some useful information discovery.
 

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I assume you've already applied standard genealogical techniques to research the life of Nellie McCain?

Unfortunately for you, in-person research is probably going to be the most effective way to find the material you need if you haven't found it already. If any of the institutions you've mentioned (which are all of the best prospects) have additional photographs and records they're likely to be in poorly or partially catalogued collections. If I were doing this research I'd take a really close look at the finding aids for any remotely relevant collection at those institutions, and then dive into anything and everything that seemed like it might possibly hold material of interest. Tedious, but often the only way for material as obscure as this. This is not something you can do remotely.

I'd doubt that the state-level or University archives hold what you're looking for, unless it happens to be part of deposited personal papers. Anything is possible though, but it'd be an extreme needle-in-a-haystack search at those places.

Another avenue would be to contact dealers in yearbooks and school photos (that's actually a thing) either offline or by trolling Ebay, Etsy and the like. A whole lot of historical fabric is for sale those sites, for better and worse. You might have to wait a while for something to come up. I've been researching a similarly obscure topic in the New York area for years, and something relevant comes up on Ebay every three years on average.

There are almost certainly avid collectors of Hoboken memorabilia out there. They should be known to local historical societies who might be able to help you make contact. Speaking generally, dealing with collectors can be... um... challenging, so it is perhaps best left as a later (last?) avenue to pursue.

Good luck with your project!
 

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It would be a long shot, but you could try contacting the Photographic Historical Society of New England (PHSNE.org).
The newsletter editor may be able to put in a "information wanted" item in the monthly newsletter.

NJ is a bit out of PHSNE's geography but there are many folks in the mid-Atlantic area who are members.
 

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Don't want to discourage you, but since you're researching a US subject, I believe you'll have to widen your search to the whole country.

One of the most fascinating aspect of US life/culture is migration. People rarely live in the state in which they were born or in which they grew up. This means that personal memorabilia about this school and, in particular, about Nellie P. McCain that would have been kept by her family/descendants (or family/descendants of other people who went to the school), can now be in Florida, New Mexico, Utah, California, or any other state.

In your case, we're talking pre-Depression, a time when massive displacement took place in the US.

I'm no historian, so I don't know the answer, but my question to various US historical societies would not be specifically about the school or Nellie McCain, but how such country-wide search is usually done. I would also approach US historical and genealogical societies with the same question.

Or maybe just give Ken Burns a call 😉.
 

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Try attacking institutions of higher learning, maybe likely she graduated college so you can begin radius - first begin NJ and NY to see where and if they have leads, images. For example, yearbooks and lists and places like Rutgers University Libraries for alumni papers and collections. Long shots but perhaps she attended College of William & Mary or Rutgers… or any other college in the area. Then keep moving outwards. Many colleges then may have been male- and women- only. The below may have been male-only for example, or up to a time.

Catalog of alumni Rutgers Queens College 1766 to 1916: https://scarletandblack.rutgers.edu/archive/files/original/ccb7207712850d02744f3bc324fba6cc.pdf

stuff like that.
 
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