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tourmania

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I want to buy a Leica film camera, which one is best to purchase?? Recommendations Please! Thank You in advance.
 

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tourmania: If you don't mind hand metering, I would opt for the M4 or a classic M3 (double stroke, of course); both are in plentiful supply on the used market. However, if you prefer the convenience of TTL metering, I would suggest one of the M6 models. A welcome in advance to Leicaland - home of the light wallets!
 
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Men can not beat some electrified devices. Buy a point shoot 40 mm summicron Leica for 60 dollars and when you start to beat it :smile: use the real one :smile:
 

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Someonenameddavid is probably right about he M6, but I still like the older cameras better. The M4 is my favorite, and has come way done in price lately (pristine ones are still high).

Mine is the less highly regarded M4-2, and I'm perfectly happy with it (and I've had about all of them over the years); I take it some M4-2's are better or worse than others. I kept it over an M4 because at that time I needed the hot shoe. I've often regretted that decision, but have to say that this M4-2 has been the best camera I've ever owned.

The M6 is a nice camera and extremely popular (and newer, which does make a difference). Still, the rangefinder patch flare bothered me on mine. The M4-2's also are not as good in this regard as the M4 and earlier, but mine has always seemed fine. Models earlier than the M4 often are showing their age in the rangefinder system, but can be wonderful cameras too.

The modern MP's and variants (something I haven't had) are probably the best of all if you really do want a meter. I suppose those are still expensive.
 

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It would be helpful to know:
Budget
Your preferred focal lengths
If you like AE

Without knowing those bits, people will just recommend what they like which won't benefit you too much.
 

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That's almost one of each now. Only the M5 fans are missing (I'm not one of them).

Which sort of points up the fact that there really weren't any bad M's, and functional condition is probably more important than most other factors beyond personal preference or specific needs (a built in meter, for instance).

They're all really wonderful cameras, but each with their own quirks that you learn to live with.
 

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If I had to get an M body, I would surely go for an M2. If you shoot with 35mm lenses, the M2 has the best-suited finder that only shows one frameline at a time which is really nice.
 

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tourmania -- nobody can answer your question without knowing what sort of photography you want to do. A camera is just a tool -- you need the right tool for the job -- you wouldn't go to sears and say "sell me a wrench, which is best?" You'd say "I'm rebuilding a Ford and need a set of socket wrenches calibrated in inches."

Nature? An R system camera might work best, especially if you want flowers or close-ups.

Street photography? Either an M or an older Barnack model will do fine.

Travel? I use my Leica CL for this -- compact, built-in meter, massive dependability.

And so on---

So, what do you want it for?
 
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Hi,

Thank you so much for all your advice, I would like to spend around $1000 and would use it to shoot street photography and landscape, I'm thinking a M3, any advice which is best?
 

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Hi,

Thank you so much for all your advice, I would like to spend around $1000 and would use it to shoot street photography and landscape, I'm thinking a M3, any advice which is best?

For 1000$ you should be able to get M3 with elmar 50/3.5 (screw mount with adapter is also good). It is a nice combination :smile:

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http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/50mm-f35.htm
 
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Hi,

Thank you so much for all your advice, I would like to spend around $1000 and would use it to shoot street photography and landscape, I'm thinking a M3, any advice which is best?

The M3 is a fabulous camera, and I think the best of the older Leicas for 50mm and longer. But 35mm is one of the most popular focal lengths for Leica, and is compromised on the M3. The M2 has the 35mm frame lines and still performs excellently with a 50mm. The M2's compromise is at the longer end; 90 is okay (not as good as on M3 though) and it does not have 135mm frame marks.

Most Leica M users tend toward the shorter focal lengths where a rangefinder camera is at it's best. I prefer the classic 35/50/90 frame line set up, and would appreciate an M3 as a second body for 50mm and longer. If you don't want a 35mm lens, it is not an issue. You can of course use 35mm lens on the M3 with and external finder, or the bug eye versions made for M3.
 

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I'd go with an M6. If you have a bit more money and want auto exposure, look into the Zeiss Ikon or an M7. M7 prices are surprisingly low now. I've seen a couple sell for about $50 more than a new Ikon.
 
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If your buying your first M a M6 is probably the logical choice. Avoids some finder problems, is a newer comera than a m3/2 but cost the almost the same, and has the flexibility of a meter.

If your inexperienced metering, a M7 may be a better choice.
 

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Haha awesome. I also had that urge to reply the same way.


If I had to get an M body, I would surely go for an M2. If you shoot with 35mm lenses, the M2 has the best-suited finder that only shows one frameline at a time which is really nice.

As does the M4.
 

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An M3 is a good choice unless you foresee using a 35mm lens, also if you have really good eyesight you don't need the higher magnification of an M3. An M2 is less expensive and has solitary framelines for 35, 50 and 90mm lenses. Either way, you can find good prices on the rangefinder forum (RFF) and from Youxin Ye on eBay.
 

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"a classic M3 (double stroke, of course)"

The definition of a classic M3 is single stroke of course...
 
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It depends on what you need the camera to do.
Frame lines => What focal length lenses do you intend to use?
Meter => Do you need one one the camera?

Other than that - they're all really excellent cameras. Get a decent one, and have it CLAd, and you'll have a camera to last you a good long time.
 

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"a classic M3 (double stroke, of course)"

The definition of a classic M3 is single stroke of course...




no it's not, it's double.

unless of course, "classic" has come to mean "the newer version"
 

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I want to buy a Leica film camera, which one is best to purchase?? Recommendations Please! Thank You in advance.

They're all magical TM. They will eliminate improper exposures,give sharpness beyond the theoretical limits of optics, render all compositions perfect, cure warts, impotence, and hangovers, etc.
God I am fed up with the Leica "mystique".

That said, I'd love another M3. Or another IIIg. But I'd go for another double stroke M3, with a Summicron. You may want to look into the M4 series, they are later than the 3.
 
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