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I was given this mat cutter a while back and it looks like a pretty nice one. But I can't figure out who the manufacturer is, and I don't know what sort of blades to get for it. Does anyone recognize this? The shuttle is two-sided, with a bevel cut on one side and a straight cut on the other.
 

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I'm not sure who the manufacturer is (looks a bit like an old C&H to me), but you may want to take a few more photos, and ask these people. They should be able to help you find the proper blades:
http://www.unitedmfrscatalog.com/home/index.htm
Did it come with the production stops and squaring arm? If not, they may help you find those, too.
 

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Does it have any identifiers on the bottom?
 

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This is a Keeton mat cutter. In mine, I use C&H no. 900SE blades but your model is maybe older, I don't have the round black handles on mine but stainless handles.
Do you look if you have blades already mounted into the head?

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This topic force me to look at blade specifications.
Maybe the 900SE = .009 single edge is not the better blade for rag board. A .015 look to be more appropriate according to this page. The 900 blade is listed for thin boards.
http://www.unitedmfrscatalog.com/lg_display.cfm/catalog/Catalog_772_Revised/page/143
http://www.thecmcdoctor.com/thecmcdoctor_blades.htm
I don't know what Double Bevel Grind and if it is better than the single edge blade.
 
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Sorry to take so long to get back in here and reply -- I've been drowning in commercial jobs and keeping my head barely above water. Thanks for the information; it doesn't have any blades in the head, which makes it more difficult to identify what blades it takes. It's got no other markings except a sticker on it with rail lubrication instructions. It looks to be a very nice mat cutter, and I have a friend who could really use a mat cutter so if I can get it working she can use it.

Doing a little Googling, it does appear to be a Keeton... I've got some sort of alighnment Tee thing that needs tightened but I don't think I have any other parts for it. May have to have one of my fabricators make a squaring arm for me, shouldn't be that difficult, as it would me just aluminum.
 

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Looks like I have two the same mat cutters. Got them 2nd hand in the eighties with a heap of blades which I still use. Now I am abroad till next tuesday, then I can check and tell you which blades they are. The key with this machine is to position a large piece of foam board (the very light 5mm stuff) under the mat carton you will cut. After each cut you move that foam board slightly. It is the only way to get clean cuts. That and replacing the blades all the time.
 

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Ok, I looked at the mat cutters I have.

They are not exactly the same, but I believe they were both made by Keeton Products. Their differences are minimal and one looks like yours. On one there's a label and Keeton is mentioned, along with Jobber.

Attached you find images that should help you further.

These machines may look old, but you can cut beautiful mats with them. I had the 'squaring' bar on one of them, but found it useless. Below some suggestions for use:

- use a soft pencil to indicate sizes on the back of your mat (don't 'draw' the whole opening - after cutting the mat you should erase the pencil marks as they will be transferred to the print you are matting)

- teach yourself using a not too thick mat-carton at first, 3mm for instance.

- where to start the cut and where to end it, you need to find out but it is slightly outside your indications

- if the cuts show on the front side, 'close' them with the nail of your forefinger. You just press the cuts to close.

- turn the mat clockwise after each cut, so you cut into the previous cut right away

- change the blades often. When you start seeing rough looking cuts you are too late.

Something like that, good luck - Michael
 

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I probably won't use this mat cutter, because I have a Logan 700 that I use all the time and it works a treat. I may end up passing this one to my friend who needs one, and we can figure out the idiosyncrasies of the unit together. Thanks for the tips.
 
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