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Thanks for the video. That was great. I’ll have to put that region on my bucket list. The terrain reminds me of California Gold Country, south of Sacramento. I used to ride there back in the late-70s and early-80s on my Honda CB750. Lots of hills and twisties. The stuff we like. I am in Southeastern Montana and it is the prairie. Most roads are on a section line so they’re straight but everything south and west of us is mountains. I am an hour from the Beartooth Highway which is a major motorcycle route. Just south of there, and making a loop with the Beartooth, is the Chief Joseph highway which, IMO, is a better motorcycle route but the Beartooth has better scenery. I’d done the loop a couple times and it’s a great day ride. Plus, the Beartooth Highway takes you right into Yellowstone Park, another great day ride.

BTW, what do you use for you camera setup? While out riding yesterday I thought about it but I am concerned that, for me, the extra thing to fiddle with, would be a distraction. I have a Cardo on my helmet and keep my phone in my pocket. No other farkles but being able to grab some video is attractive.

Ah, yes, my BFA. I retired in 2012 after teaching high school drafting and computer programming for 21-years. I’ve always like to draw, especially mechanical things, so I did a 2-year vocational program and worked in the petro-chem industry for 10 years or so before making the career change and moving to Montana. To accomplish that I finished my BA in Industrial Arts and rather than take more drafting classes, my area of concentration was photography, an addiction that I’d picked up while in the army in the early 70s. While my studies of photography brought me close to the world of fine art, I really didn’t know that much about it. As part of planning for retirement, I learned that one needs to be learning new things and challenges to keep the brain supple. To that end I decided to find a drawing class. I’d been doing some drawing for quite a few years but not that many and, to bring this closer to photography, I liked how a pencil, moved along a nice piece of paper, left behind graphite on the the fiber that looked like the grain of film.

I looked for a drawing class in 2015 and found one at the local university and I also found that, as a Vietnam-Era vet, I qualified for a tuition waiver if I enrolled in a degree program. That was about 7-years ago and I have learned LOTS. I’ve concentrated on drawing, photography, and some painting and while I have certainly picked up some skills, where I have really changed is in how I think and feel about my art and art in general. I really favor the early modern art movement from 1920-1930, especially geometric abstraction which makes sense with my background in drafting. This semester I’m doing some pieces influenced by the Precisionists. Here’s one in graphite and pastel, 15”x22”.

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Supposed to be about 70 tomorrow. Looks like I’ll be riding….
 
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@VinceInMT Excellent drawing! Perfect perspective, great shading, eveness, etc. You absolutely must get ahold of some coquille board/paper. Best thing ever for duplicating the grain of a photograph with pencil. Check out Malcolm Childers, one of my college teacher's, work. He drew on coquille board and then did photogravure prints. He was/is a jerk, but he is a talented artist. http://roadsongs.com/galleries.html.

I used an Apeman Trawo camera - a Go Pro knockoff, but very good. I made a mold for a helmet base and produced a nifty helmet mount that fit perfectly right below the bottom of my visor in the center of the chin. I attached it with thin doublestick tape. With it, I could see the back of the camera to know what I was shooting and, in that position, it was only about 6" below my line of sight. I bought a nice remote audio recorder and a lapel mic with little foam covers to reduce wind noise. I snaked the mic up into the inside cheek area of my helmet and taped it there. I put the recorder in my tank bag. I had to use the waterproof case for the camera in order to mount it and that particular model has no audio out connection. So, no camera audio that was useful. To sync the audio and video, I left the camera audio on, started the remote audio recorder and the camera and then beeped the motorcycle horn three times. I then lined up the beeps in my NLE in post production and replaced the camera audio track with the remote audio recorder track.

They're having Thunder in the Hills here this weekend. Tons of Willy Nelson look-alikes turning gas into noise. Just shoot me. Great weather, but there's no way I'm going out to fight their rolling roadblocks.

My Pentax Zoom 90WR ebay purchase arrived today. $33. It's is in immaculate condition complete with the original immaculate carrying case. Amazing. Can't wait to shoot with it. I actually think it may be my "go to" camera for a lot of things.
 
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@VinceInMT You absolutely must get ahold of some coquille board/paper. Best thing ever for duplicating the grain of a photograph with pencil. Check out Malcolm Childers, one of my college teacher's, work. He drew on coquille board and then did photogravure prints. He was/is a jerk, but he is a talented artist. http://roadsongs.com/galleries.html.

Thanks. I’ll check out that board. Looks like something I might like. I’ve been drawing mostly on Stonehenge. In some other work this semester I’ve been doing cyanotypes on Stonehenge and then drawing on it. An example is the last post on this thread:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/cyanotype-paper-green-blue-before-exposure.190790/

I looked at Childers work. Wow. I can only imagine. Looks fantastic. Thanks for the heads up.

@VinceInMTI used an Apeman Trawo camera…

Thanks. That’s doable. I’m intrigued. but I still a novice rider (coming back to this after years away) and want to keep distractions at a minimum. I get the combining audio and video in post. That’s the way to do it. I’ve got lots of hours with Premiere.

@VinceInMTThey're having Thunder in the Hills here this weekend. Tons of Willy Nelson look-alikes turning gas into noise. Just shoot me. Great weather, but there's no way I'm going to out fight their rolling roadblocks.

Reminds me of people who ask me if I will go to Sturgis. Uh….No.

@VinceInMTMy Pentax Zoom 90WR ebay purchase arrived today. $33. It's is in immaculate condition complete with the original immaculate carrying case. Amazing. Can't wait to shoot with it. I actually think it may be my "go to" camera for a lot of things.

That’s great. One aspect of this hobby that I like is keeping touch with how things used to be done. Related: I have and still use reel-to-reel tapes and 8-tracks; I drive a ‘59 Volvo and an ‘65 Triumph; I bake my own bread; I collect and listen to old time radio programs (have about 65,000 shows.)
 

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BTW, I love to stipple. Here’s one that is on 22”x30” paper. I did a calculation and extrapolation or something like that and figured that is has 300,000 dots. Closeup provided.

“All drawings start with a dot.” - Wassily Kandinsky


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Thanks. I’ll check out that board. Looks like something I might like. I’ve been drawing mostly on Stonehenge. In some other work this semester I’ve been doing cyanotypes on Stonehenge and then drawing on it. An example is the last post on this thread:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/cyanotype-paper-green-blue-before-exposure.190790/
Excellent! I had no idea what a cyanotype was. Seriously. I like them.

I looked at Childers work. Wow. I can only imagine. Looks fantastic. Thanks for the heads up.



Thanks. That’s doable. I’m intrigued. but I still a novice rider (coming back to this after years away) and want to keep distractions at a minimum. I get the combining audio and video in post. That’s the way to do it. I’ve got lots of hours with Premiere.

I’m not sure you would find vlogging a distraction. You’re basically just thinking out loud instead of to yourself. Plus, it sure is fun watching your ride when you get home. Now, listening to music while riding is something I have no desire to do because I think that would be distracting. People do it all the time, though.

Reminds me of people who ask me if I will go to Sturgis. Uh….No.
Lol. Or Bike Week, Biketoberfest, etc. I made the mistake of going to those a couple of times. Wall-to-wall morons.


That’s great. One aspect of this hobby that I like is keeping touch with how things used to be done. Related: I have and still use reel-to-reel tapes and 8-tracks; I drive a ‘59 Volvo and an ‘65 Triumph; I bake my own bread; I collect and listen to old time radio programs (have about 65,000 shows.)
Reel-to-reel and 8-tracks. I remember them well. The reel-to-reel was a lust object for many. The 8-track on the side of the road with 20 feet a tape hanging out of it was a common sight, too.

My landlady has a Volvo PV444 in her barn half restored. I rebuilt the carb when I first moved there, but that’s as far as its gotten. What model Triumph do you have? Yeh, I know all the Triumph jokes. I had a 1970 Triumph Bonneville.

You know, John Cleese mentioned one of his favorite British radio shows, but I can’t remember what is was. Not something I’ve ever considered. What radio programs would you recommend?
 
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BTW, I love to stipple. Here’s one that is on 22”x30” paper. I did a calculation and extrapolation or something like that and figured that is has 300,000 dots. Closeup provided.

“All drawings start with a dot.” - Wassily Kandinsky


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That is so good. I really like pointalism as well and have done a number of pointalist drawings. I also went through a geometry phase and did a number of drawings with squares, triangles, and circles. I’m a huge fan of M.C. Escher, too. That guy was amazing.
 

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Reel-to-reel and 8-tracks. I remember them well. The reel-to-reel was a lust object for many. The 8-track on the side of the road with 20 feet a tape hanging out of it was a common sight, too.

Just one part of my man cave.

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My landlady has a Volvo PV444 in her barn half restored. I rebuilt the carb when I first moved there, but that’s as far as its gotten. What model Triumph do you have? Yeh, I know all the Triumph jokes. I had a 1970 Triumph Bonneville.

Those PV444 are pretty rare. My 544. I’ve had it since 1977. It went into storage (OK, abandonment) for 20-some years and then I got it out and running again.

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My Triumph is a 1965 TR4. I bought it in about 2015. It needed lots of work. This is a photo of when I brought it home. Since then I’ve gone through all the mechanicals and sewed up a whole new interior (I do upholstery some.). It still could you some minor body work and paint job.

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You know, John Cleese mentioned one of his favorite British radio shows, but I can’t remember what is was. Not something I’ve ever considered. What radio programs would you recommend?

My guess is that Cleese is referring to the Goon Show. Monty Python was heavily influenced by that.

As for recommendations of radio shows, when it comes to Old Time Radio, that is, American radio from the early 1930s to 1962, there are so many and depends on the genre you like. If suspense is your thing, you can’t go wrong with the “Suspense.” If you like westerns it would be “Gunsmoke.” For sitcoms I’d point you to “The Great Gildersleeve.” For classic comment: The Jack Benny Program, The Fred Allen Show, or Burns and Allen. One of my favorites is “Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.” I am a fan of science fiction and two shows did that really well: “X Minus One” and “Dimension X.” You can find many/most of these on archive.org. You can also get a weekly sampling on my web site:

http://www.otrannex.com/

If you want British shows, I have lots but they are a bit more difficult to track down. I tend to like the BBC dramatizations of science fiction or spy thrillers. I am also a “Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy” junkie. I’m an originalist and prefer the radio series rather that the TV version or the movie.

And, one that I always recommend is the radio adaptation of the Star Wars trilogy, especially the first two. Those were made in the early 80s with some of the original cast, all the original sound effects and music, and an expanded story line. Great fun. You can find them on YouTube.

When I am drawing I usually listen to music (big fan) but also listen to radio shows or art podcasts. I really like “The Lonely Palette” podcast which is a great art history show.

One thing I don’t do is watch television. Gave it up long ago. I don’t even watch or go to movies any more. Too much other stuff I’d rather be doing.

And, yes, of course, I am an Escher fan. Aside from the great use of geometry, the texture he’d create in some of those drawings/etchings, draws me in.

Supposed to be 68 today so I have to go out for a ride. Tomorrow’s going to 75 but I have class all afternoon and need to work on a paper and a drawing in the morning. I think I’ll head south to Wyoming today. But first, I am meeting friends for an 8-mile run.
 
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Just one part of my man cave.

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Lucky dog. I wish I had a man cave.

Those PV444 are pretty rare. My 544. I’ve had it since 1977. It went into storage (OK, abandonment) for 20-some years and then I got it out and running again.

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My landlady said her Volvo is a 1953. Too bad it’s just sitting in the barn. There’s one - 444 or 544 - here in town. Looks completely restored.

My Triumph is a 1965 TR4. I bought it in about 2015. It needed lots of work. This is a photo of when I brought it home. Since then I’ve gone through all the mechanicals and sewed up a whole new interior (I do upholstery some.). It still could you some minor body work and paint job.

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Nice car. Better than a TR6. I have a soft spot for English cars like that other than an MGB. I’d take a Sunbeam Tiger if anyone is asking.

My guess is that Cleese is referring to the Goon Show. Monty Python was heavily influenced by that.

Yes, that’s it. The Goon Show.

As for recommendations of radio shows, when it comes to Old Time Radio, that is, American radio from the early 1930s to 1962, there are so many and depends on the genre you like. If suspense is your thing, you can’t go wrong with the “Suspense.” If you like westerns it would be “Gunsmoke.” For sitcoms I’d point you to “The Great Gildersleeve.” For classic comment: The Jack Benny Program, The Fred Allen Show, or Burns and Allen. One of my favorites is “Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar.” I am a fan of science fiction and two shows did that really well: “X Minus One” and “Dimension X.” You can find many/most of these on archive.org. You can also get a weekly sampling on my web site:

http://www.otrannex.com/

If you want British shows, I have lots but they are a bit more difficult to track down. I tend to like the BBC dramatizations of science fiction or spy thrillers. I am also a “Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy” junkie. I’m an originalist and prefer the radio series rather that the TV version or the movie.

And, one that I always recommend is the radio adaptation of the Star Wars trilogy, especially the first two. Those were made in the early 80s with some of the original cast, all the original sound effects and music, and an expanded story line. Great fun. You can find them on YouTube.

When I am drawing I usually listen to music (big fan) but also listen to radio shows or art podcasts. I really like “The Lonely Palette” podcast which is a great art history show.

One thing I don’t do is watch television. Gave it up long ago. I don’t even watch or go to movies any more. Too much other stuff I’d rather be doing.

Thanks for all the radio show info! I checked out your website. I think I’m about to get even more well-rounded.

I haven’t had a TV for many years. Can’t stand them. I watch mostly old programs and movies on my computer via Amazon.

And, yes, of course, I am an Escher fan. Aside from the great use of geometry, the texture he’d create in some of those drawings/etchings, draws me in.

Supposed to be 68 today so I have to go out for a ride. Tomorrow’s going to 75 but I have class all afternoon and need to work on a paper and a drawing in the morning. I think I’ll head south to Wyoming today. But first, I am meeting friends for an 8-mile run.
 
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I guy here has a Tiger but we don’t see it out much.

I got in a nice ride today:

https://fjradventures.blogspot.com/2022/03/belfry-red-lodge-columbus-loop.html

Lucky dog! The Harleys were out in droves today. Heading home from their lemming convention in Bandera. This morning, we passed a bad motorcycle accident at an intersection right past our house on the way to church. The rider was laying face down. Didn’t have a chance to rubber neck. Hope he’s ok. I’m guessing he was the victim of a left turning car.

Looks like you had a nice ride. Nothing like ‘em. I generally like riding Tuesday through Thursday when there are fewer idiots and cops on the road, but when the wife goes to see the grandkids in San Antonio on Saturdays I go out sometimes.

Btw...do you have a radio show archive on your site or just the three featured shows? I thought maybe you had all or most of your recording on your site but I couldn’t find them.
 

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Left turning cars…that’s always a problem. One thing I notice now that I’m back riding is that people seem to be more aware of me than they were when I rode my CB750. The headlights on the FJR are really bright.

Pretty much every road motorcycle around here is a Harley. When I went to Yamaha dealer to ask them to order me a 2021 FJR, they said they couldn’t even get them here. (I had to go to South Dakota.). They said that the only bikes they sell are off-road because everyone here wants a Harley. When people I know who ride, and have Harleys, asked why I didn’t buy one I told them I made my decision on purely pragmatic grounds, not emotional ones. I put together a spreadsheet and listed all the features/specifications I wanted across the top and the available bikes down the side. I assigned a point value, 1-5, for how well each bike met that spec. The FJR came out on top. That’s how I made my decision. I also tell those Harley guys that I am not interested in wearing a costume when I ride, I actually like to wear a helmet, I don’t want a tattoo, and I don’t want to gain 50 pounds. A guy that I taught with bought a Harley. At school he always dressed “preppy.” I ran across him at a watering hole in Red Lodge and he was all decked out with the boots, chaps, chains, and dew rag. I felt like asking him if it was Halloween. I was on a couple Facebook motorcycle groups related to riding and ended up dropping them do to the comments from, primarily, Harley riders: negativity, attacking what others ride, politics, etc. I’m only on the FJR group now and it’s a nice, very supportive group. I suppose we see that in many places, even here with those who tout their preferred brand of film or camera and are ready to tell you that whatever you are doing, you are doing it wrong.

Anyway…..no, I don’t have my whole radio show collection online. When I set up that web site, bandwidth and storage were an issue and, heck, I was even poaching space on my school’s server back then. Now, with archive.org and other places (even YouTube), it’s pretty easy to track down lots of shows. Here’s a link to a site I use for searching for information on individual show episodes:

http://radiogoldin.library.umkc.edu/

And, to keep this tangentially related to photography, there was a show called “Casey, Crime Photographer,” that was really just another crime show and photography was never really that much part of the show. There was a show called “Adventures in Photography” but I’ve never heard one.

This morning I am back into the darkroom to work on a cyanotype. I finally came up with an idea so I have to do the sensitizing of the paper after I tape off the mask. I’d like to get that part done before my class this afternoon because it’s supposed to by sunny today and rain tomorrow. If I can’t use the sun for exposure I can use the UV print table at school but that takes a lot longer and is a hassle.
 

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When I took and passed my California motorcycle license tester, friends, neighbors and all sorts of motorcycle riders warned me to watch out for left turning station wagons with Arizona tags filled with children driven by women.
 
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