Hello APUG from FILM Ferrania

TheToadMen · Aug 31, 2015

Xmas said:
.... I could drop off ten at local lab have a coffee and blueberry and return to look at ten CDs on their mini printer's screen. Till the lab vanished.

Look at the bright side: there is still coffee and blueberry
And you could always use the coffee as a developer for the remaining E6 films too (as in Caffenol), though you'll end up B&W negatives obviously.

But seriously, I bought me an E6 kit to give it a try myself sometimes. I've got a stash of expired Fuji Velvia 50 roll films.
Luckily there is still a very good professional (analogue) lab overhere in Holland. They develop E6, C-41 and B&W (in Ilford Ilfotec DD-X) in all formats twice a week. I've send them about 50 rolls in the last year and they've always delivered fast and very good work.

bruniroquai · Sep 4, 2015

and maybe a cheap JOBO.

Xmas · Sep 4, 2015

bruniroquai said:
and maybe a cheap JOBO.

That needs investment and space large plastic basin and electric kettle just as effective.

The lab I was using for E6 was excellent the postal (mail) service (in 2005) could lose 5% of envelopes!
So I was forced to go to local c41 mini labs.

Then they vanished.
It is simpler for me to use monochrome.

Cause I've moved I have local E6 and c41 labs again. But they are still vanishing even in metropolis.

Sirius Glass · Sep 4, 2015

bruniroquai said:
and maybe a cheap JOBO.

A very worthy purchase. After buying an enlarger, print drum dryer, print washer, Hasselblads and 4"x5" cameras, a Jobo ranks with them.

Nzoomed · Sep 8, 2015

Xmas said:
That needs investment and space large plastic basin and electric kettle just as effective.

The lab I was using for E6 was excellent the postal (mail) service (in 2005) could lose 5% of envelopes!
So I was forced to go to local c41 mini labs.

Then they vanished.
It is simpler for me to use monochrome.

Cause I've moved I have local E6 and c41 labs again. But they are still vanishing even in metropolis.

Temperature is critical for E6, kettle wont cut the mustard...

Xmas · Sep 8, 2015

Nzoomed said:
Temperature is critical for E6, kettle wont cut the mustard...

Well YMMV but it was the large bowl of water that you hold at the 1st developer temperature with a thermometer and kettle, that provides the thermal inertia.
You can dry run it with no film in the tank until you as good as a thermostat, or better!

Roger Cole · Sep 8, 2015

Nzoomed said:
Temperature is critical for E6, kettle wont cut the mustard...

Nonsense.

I've done plenty of E6 just fine with a big plastic dishpan, hot and cold running water, and a decent thermometer.

It's a bit of a hassle and I like my Jobo a lot better but it's not really difficult and works fine.

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Sirius Glass · Sep 8, 2015

Roger Cole said:
Nonsense.

I've done plenty of E6 just fine with a big plastic dishpan, hot and cold running water, and a decent thermometer.

It's a bit of a hassle and I like my Jobo a lot better but it's not really difficult and works fine.

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A Jobo processor takes all the challenges out of the color processing. It is more fun with a Jobo.

Nzoomed · Sep 16, 2015

Why cant i get any further than page 109?

Prest_400 · Sep 16, 2015

Nzoomed said:
Why cant i get any further than page 109?

Me neither, on the laptop. Tapatalk and iPhone works well.

It's now been quite a bit since we've gotten an update. Either they are very busy with the process or the pace has slowed quite a bit. IIRC they were waiting for the complete installation of the chiller.

<Beamed through Tapatalk relay>

Roger Cole · Sep 16, 2015

This thread seems to be stuck again. It shows up under new posts and shows 112 pages, but I can't read anything past page 109, presumably including this post I am about to make.

AgX · Sep 16, 2015

For me everything looks fine this time. Nothing stuck.

(Except that I can read more posts than stated in the threads listing for this thread. But we already discussed this discrepancy.)

Hatchetman · Sep 16, 2015

the only way to see the end of the thread is to reply. stuck on page 109

AgX · Sep 16, 2015

I replied and did not see any more than before replying.

BUT I have that stuck problem with a different thread now.

So we now got a kind of variable bug at Apug. But let's just wait for the new version to come.

Roger Cole · Sep 16, 2015

Works for me on Tapatalk on my iPhone but not with either Firefox or Chrome on my computer.

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flavio81 · Sep 16, 2015

Nzoomed said:
The good news though is that every newly developed film made by ferrania on the big boy coater since the 1960's was in fact tested and developed in the LRF, so this should be some advantage to them.

Im also aware that some films they had on the market were made in the LRF at times.

Exactly, that was the idea of the LRF. LRF = "Laboratori richerche fotografichi" (spelled right?)

Which means "Photographic research labs". The LRF was intended to be used to develop and test new films.

flavio81 · Sep 16, 2015

I can't go past page 110 of this thread!! Is anybody experiencing this problem?!
I can choose "last" page or number "113" page, but the system always outputs me page 110 !!

EDIT: Now i can see page 113 but i can't access pages 112 and 111...

flavio81 · Sep 16, 2015

1L6E6VHF said:
Personally, I would like to see an ultra-sharp, ultra-fine grain E-6 with antihalation layers front and rear (that would, somehow, wash away in any E-6 chemistry, without affecting the chemicals). RMS 6 or less grain, 200 lp/mm resolution, speed preferably 100, but as low as 25, if that were needed to reach those grain and resolution specs.

Such a film, with state-of-the-art Fuji technology, would probably end up being ISO 25. Antihalation particles steal speed, AFAIK.

You would have better results using 6x6 format with a conventional tech ISO 100 film like Scotchchrome 100. Even higher sharpness and resolution, while keeping the grain as low or lower than the similar 35mm frame.

And that's my point for people complaining of the Ferraniachromes potentially not being as good as the Fujichromes: Go to a larger format. Nowadays, with the cheap prices of MF gear, it is a no-brainer!

AgX · Sep 16, 2015

1L6E6VHF said:
Personally, I would like to see an ultra-sharp, ultra-fine grain E-6 with antihalation layers front and rear.

A antihalation layer at the front of the film (in case you mean that) makes no sense at all.
Combining antihalation layers on both sides of the base makes not much sense.

cmacd123 · Sep 16, 2015

AgX said:
A antihalation layer at the front of the film (in case you mean that) makes no sense at all.
Combining antihalation layers on both sides of the base makes not much sense.

Indeed, the idea of anti-halo layers is to prevent light that has passed though the emulsion from scattering and causing random exposure. The ideal emulsion would capture every single photon and use it to record an image. Many colour films have a silver layer just behind the light sensitive layers to absorb as much light as possible to prevent it from travelling further, but that only works in a colour process where the bleach will dissolve away the silver layer anyway.

pentaxuser · Sep 16, 2015

I can see post 1126 at end of page 113 and I am on Chrome if that is of any help

pentaxuser

Sirius Glass · Sep 16, 2015

I get 40 posts to a page so I am only on sheet 29. Maybe you sure change your browser setting. I too have had this problem happen on long threads.

Francesco_from_Rome · Sep 16, 2015

flavio81 said:
Exactly, that was the idea of the LRF. LRF = "Laboratori richerche fotografichi" (spelled right?)

Which means "Photographic research labs". The LRF was intended to be used to develop and test new films.

That should be "Laboratorio di ricerche fotografiche"

Nzoomed · Sep 17, 2015

flavio81 said:
I can't go past page 110 of this thread!! Is anybody experiencing this problem?!
I can choose "last" page or number "113" page, but the system always outputs me page 110 !!

EDIT: Now i can see page 113 but i can't access pages 112 and 111...

Yes i thought it was just me! lol

I posted about it earlier today and i can only assume my post is on page 112. Hopefully they can fix it...

Roger Cole · Sep 17, 2015

Seems to be fixed now. It had been stuck for me on my computer but ok on my iPhone in Tapatalk. I'm on my computer now in Firefox on page 113.

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