Hassy 503CW and Mirror Lockup.........

avid1 · Dec 3, 2022

Does anyone know if I can use mirror lockup with a Winder CW attached? The manual to the Winder CW does not touch on that very important topic, and neither does the camera manual. I don't have the Rapid Winder Crank (at the moment) and will be using the Winder for a while. I have film in the camera right now and so don't really want to test it out. I think it would be ok, but I would rather ask first in case I mess something up. Thanks.

eli griggs · Dec 4, 2022

I do no know.

That said, it makes no sense, to me, that the mirror lockup will allow a motor winder to move onto the next cycle, without a full wind and second manual activation of the mirror.

The two sequences together are, IMO, to much of a workload to be auto triggered at the same time, no?

I do no know.

Sirius Glass · Dec 4, 2022

I have the 503 CX and I can lock up the mirror. In theory you could lock up the mirror with the 503 CW. Check out your friendly manual at https://www.butkus.org/chinon/hasselblad.htm [please donate $3 if you find the download useful] or http://www.hasselbladhistorical.eu/HW/HWVSys.aspx

avid1 · Dec 4, 2022

Sirius Glass said:
I have the 503 CX and I can lock up the mirror. In theory you could lock up the mirror with the 503 CW. Check out your friendly manual at https://www.butkus.org/chinon/hasselblad.htm [please donate $3 if you find the download useful] or http://www.hasselbladhistorical.eu/HW/HWVSys.aspx

Thanks. Yeah, I read the manuals for the Winder CW and it skips on that topic. And yes, the CW can lock up the mirror with a regular rapid crank (44086) attached. But my question is, can the mirror lockup be engaged when using the Winder CW? Or will it interfere with the Winder CW's operation, because this Winder has a certain sequence it follows that includes moving the mirror out of the way? I was thinking someone that uses the Winder CW and had the need to lock up the mirror would know.

avid1 · Dec 4, 2022

eli griggs said:
I do no know.

That said, it makes no sense, to me, that the mirror lockup will allow a motor winder to move onto the next cycle, without a full wind and second manual activation of the mirror.

The two sequences together are, IMO, to much of a workload to be auto triggered at the same time, no?

I do no know.

Thanks, that is exactly why I ask the question. I imagine, the Winder has a certain sequence of events to follow, and manually moving the mirror out of the way might throw it off. I don't want to jam the camera by experimenting.

etn · Dec 5, 2022

avid1 said:
Thanks, that is exactly why I ask the question. I imagine, the Winder has a certain sequence of events to follow, and manually moving the mirror out of the way might throw it off. I don't want to jam the camera by experimenting.

The winder does nothing else than pushing on the trigger button, then turning the rewind crank. Therefore the Mirror lock-up, if activated, should not cause a problem, as pushing the trigger button is the next step you do to take a picture. Bottom line, go ahead and try it, you cannot break anything.

I just tried it with my body. My first concern was that the winder would be in the way of the MLU control. It turns out it's not: there is sufficient room to insert your finger. Then, you can take the picture using the winder's release button or (better) the remote. Works like a charm.

As a side note, you do not need a film back to run this test. Just remove it if you have film in it.

Hope this helps

etn · Dec 5, 2022

Side note #2: the winder itself cannot trigger the MLU, as it does not have an actuator to do it. You need to lock the mirror up by hand.

avid1 · Dec 5, 2022

etn said:
The winder does nothing else than pushing on the trigger button, then turning the rewind crank. Therefore the Mirror lock-up, if activated, should not cause a problem, as pushing the trigger button is the next step you do to take a picture. Bottom line, go ahead and try it, you cannot break anything.

I just tried it with my body. My first concern was that the winder would be in the way of the MLU control. It turns out it's not: there is sufficient room to insert your finger. Then, you can take the picture using the winder's release button or (better) the remote. Works like a charm.

As a side note, you do not need a film back to run this test. Just remove it if you have film in it.

Hope this helps

etn, thank you so much for confirming what I was hoping the Winder CW would do when the MLU is activated. Someone else told me what you said, and it does make sense that the winder just pushes the shutter button, but it also winds the film on as an extra step. I will give it a try without the back to see how it goes.

And so, twenty minutes later.........................IT DOES WORK, as you said!!! With the RC and with shutter button on winder itself, without breaking anything. Checked it with the back and lens off! Thanks so much for clarifying it for me (and others, I hope). Many many thanks again!

etn · Dec 7, 2022

Anytime This is why this forum is here for!

Sirius Glass · Dec 7, 2022

etn said:
Anytime This is why this forum is here for!

Good to see that you are getting your money's worth from Photrio!

etn · Dec 7, 2022

Sirius Glass said:
Good to see that you are getting your money's worth from Photrio!

I, for one, got a lot of information from this forum, and a few friends.
Glad I could contribute something useful for a change!

Hassy 503CW and Mirror Lockup.........

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