Hasselblad Winding Film

Rinthe · Sep 27, 2009

ok after exposing my first roll of film. i wind the film. everything is fine. i took out the magazine and the film is on the hasselblad loading spool instead of the original spool the film came with. any idea what's going on?

kristopher_lawrence · Sep 27, 2009

Its perfectly normal. You don't rewind 120 film, only respool it on the previous spool. You film should show a different mark on the backing paper such as "exposed"

Take out the spool with the film and replace it with the spool that it is now empty.

I suggest you look at some youtube videos regardin 120 film loading.

Best,

Kris

Rinthe · Sep 27, 2009

it does say exposed on the outside of the film.

hmm how do i replace the spool? the film is on it.

kristopher_lawrence · Sep 27, 2009

just do the same as you did to get the film in place... Its easy...

Seriously, look at "loading hasselblad" on youtube. It will be much easyer than to try to describe it by text...

Rinthe · Sep 27, 2009

I watched the loading hasselblad youtube videos, thats how i loaded my film. So you're saying i do the exact same thing again? to get it on the other spool?

Ian David · Sep 27, 2009

You replace the take-up spool (that your exposed film is now on) with the empty spool that is now sitting in the other side of the holder. Each time you expose a film, the spool it was on becomes your new take-up spool (i.e. you just move it to the other side of the holder and load your next film the same way you loaded the last one). The take-up spool is not a special part of the film magazine - it is just the black plastic spool that is found inside every 120 film.

Rinthe · Sep 27, 2009

wait but don't i want to keep the original hasselblad spool? if i take these exposed film to develop, they'll throw away my spool.. sorry i'm a little confused right now. the manual doesn't say anything about it :/

Ian David · Sep 27, 2009

Nope - please see my edited post above. The spool is not an original hasselblad one

Paul Goutiere · Sep 27, 2009

Rinthe said:
I watched the loading hasselblad youtube videos, thats how i loaded my film. So you're saying i do the exact same thing again? to get it on the other spool?

120 film is a pretty antiquated system, but a good one. The spool that came with the camera was a spool from the last roll of film. When you take the exposed film out, the empty spool becomes the take up spool.

This a very nostalgic question for some of us. I asked the same question when I bought my first Kodak brownie.

Rinthe · Sep 27, 2009

ahhh great, thank you all!

William Markey · Sep 27, 2009

It's not a "Hasselblad spool". It's just the spool that the last owner had in the camera from when he/she finished up their roll. The black plastic roll is the same thing that is inside every roll of 120 or 220 film...it's not part of the camera at all. You're simply taking a roll of film on one spool and exposing it/rolling it onto the empty spool. Take out the exposed roll and process it and move the now-empty spool into the empty take up spool area so that it now becomes your "new" take up spool.

Anscojohn · Sep 27, 2009

Rinthe said:
ahhh great, thank you all!

*****
And it pays to have an empty spool in your bag. Accidents happen. The mag won't work without a spool.

MattKing · Sep 28, 2009

This is an excellent question.

It is questions like these that make me realize how much many of us assume that others know.

I expect that the reason that we make this assumption is that many of us learned stuff like this because we had someone to show us how things work.

In my case, this lesson undoubtedly would have come from my father, at some time close to my 8th birthday. Not, unfortunately, with a Hassleblad, but the lesson could certainly be learned from a Brownie Starmatic too.

Matt

bdial · Sep 28, 2009

Question answered.

FWIW, my habit is to switch the spools as soon as I remove the exposed roll, so that the camera is ready for the new roll, whether it's getting reloaded immediatly or sometime later. Saves time in those situations where you want to load the camera fast.

Venchka · Sep 28, 2009

Teach them early

Just make sure that the magazine is in fact loaded. Otherwise, you could spend a day making wonderful photos in your mind and not on film.

Ask me how I know. Twice. As recently as last Saturday. That's 1 time too many. Caution: It is perfectly possible to go through all the motions of photography with an empty film magazine.

Matt:

Little did I know that when my parents gave me a Brownie Hawkeye for my 10th birthday that they were training me for Hasselblad ownership. Why it took over 50 years to put Hasselblad film loading into practice I'll never know. You are correct: When I began reading this thread I found the questions difficult to imagine. Then I remembered my early training with the Brownie.

Rinthe: Be thankful that your camera came with the original Hasselblad Starter Take Up Spool. Otherwise you would not have been able to load film without first obtaining a take up spool.

Xmas · Sep 28, 2009

Venchka said:
Caution: It is perfectly possible to go through all the motions of photography with an empty film magazine.

Well there is a little dial with a red thermometer indicator on my blad backs that tells you, that there is film on one of the reels, perhaps you have the cheap Ch copies if yours does not have one to...

With multiple backs you need to use all the reminders...

I'll give you you have to know it is there and have to look, as I shot lots of frames yesterday with a rfdr with a lens cap on.

Noel
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Venchka · Sep 29, 2009

Xmas said:
Well there is a little dial with a red thermometer indicator on my blad backs that tells you, that there is film on one of the reels, perhaps you have the cheap Ch copies if yours does not have one to...

With multiple backs you need to use all the reminders...

I'll give you you have to know it is there and have to look, as I shot lots of frames yesterday with a rfdr with a lens cap on.

Noel
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Thanks Noel! You are correct. The system is new to me and I to it. It's a real Hasselblad back for sure. I forgot to look on that side. I looked on the other side. I saw a "2" in the window and thought the magazine was loaded. Thanks for the reminder and refresher.

One advantage of the M5: The meter needle doesn't move if the cap is on!

Xmas · Sep 29, 2009

Venchka said:
Thanks Noel! You are correct. The system is new to me and I to it. It's a real Hasselblad back for sure. I forgot to look on that side. I looked on the other side. I saw a "2" in the window and thought the magazine was loaded. Thanks for the reminder and refresher.

One advantage of the M5: The meter needle doesn't move if the cap is on!

M2s do not have meter needles...

If you are dry firing you need to reset the counter afterwards as it is too easy to ignore the red thermometer...

Noel

Venchka · Sep 29, 2009

Enough practice. I'll check the window for the red tell tale. M5s have meter needles. They are nice. With a 90mm lens mounted, the M5 is a perfect spot meter for the Hasselblad and big Pentax.

Wayne

photomem · Sep 29, 2009

I think you guys missed the most obvious answer on keeping the "original" spool. Process the film yourself! That way you can keep that spool and the spool from every other film you ever process.

Venchka · Sep 29, 2009

I keep a few. I'm thinking I should put one in each camera bag I carry. In case something happens to my primary spool. I will need to keep the Pentax spools seperate from the Hasselblad spools.

Rinthe · Sep 29, 2009

what's different between pentax spools and hasselblad spools? shouldnt they be the same since it's the same film?

bdial · Sep 29, 2009

He's joking (I presume).
They are different between brands of film, but as you note, to the camera it's just a roll of 120, or perhaps 220 (same spool, longer length).
Dimensionally, they are all identical regardless of the brand.

I've never encountered a situation where I needed a spare spool. Though it might be handy, if you are fumble-fingered, and shooting near someplace like the grand canyon.

BTW, in the case of the Hasselblad, 220 requires a 220 specific back (A-24).

Ian David · Sep 29, 2009

When the day comes that I need a spare spool, I will probably just sacrifice a fresh roll of film. Good for the survival of the film industry too

Sirius Glass · Sep 30, 2009

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