hasselblad lenses

I am currently looking around for a lens to put on a hasseblad 501c/m. The obviuos choise is a "planar 80/2.8 t f" since it's the cheapest on the used market.
Though there seem to be different versions of this particualir lens, but different sites on the www tell different stories about this.

Another option is the more expensive sonnar 150/2.8 t f wich I would prefer for the focal lengt but than again it's twice the price.

Any advice on a good alround lens and particulair on these two would be very welcome, I am mainly using it for outdoor portraits in B/W.

Thanks!

BTW are these lenses multicoated and how can I check the state of the coating, I damaged the coating on one of my nikor lenses with exsesive use of cleaning alcohol, and honestly I only see that on certain pictures.

Yeah the 80mm Planar is most users first lens. The black ones with a T* marking are multicoated. I have one of these, great performer.
But I`d like a newer CF lens as they have a smoother focusring and are bit easier to handle. I have the 150mm Sonnar too(f/4 btw,) also a great lens. I got it cheap because of some scratches in the front element(that doesn`t degrade it`s performance at all). For portraits the 150mm is great, but I will get a tube for moving in for tight headshots.

Quinten said:

Though there seem to be different versions of this particualir lens, but different sites on the www tell different stories about this.

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There's CF and C. C lenses are Bay 50 and multicoated. CF lenses are also coated but Bay 60. Are you shooting mostly B&W? Consider the older lenses. They say (who's "they" anyway), that parts for the C are harder to get so consider that.

Another option is the more expensive sonnar 150/2.8 t f wich I would prefer for the focal lengt but than again it's twice the price.

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You cannot use the F lens on a 501 body. Those are just for the focal plane Hasselblads.

Any adice on a good alround lens and particulair on these two would be very welcome, I am mainly using it for outdoor portraits in B/W.

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Depends on your style. I would get a cheapo 80mm and see if you like the perspective. You can always resell it and get the 150mm CF or C. What's your favorite focal length with 35mm and try to replicate that.

coating, I damaged the coating on one of my nikor lenses with exsesive use of cleaning alcohol, and honestly I only see that on certain pictures.

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I don't know when the last time I cleaned any of my lenses. I just blow air in front.

eric said:

You cannot use the F lens on a 501 body. Those are just for the focal plane Hasselblads.

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Eric are you sure about that F, almost all these lenses have an F in the type name (no not the f/apendeture But "c f" "cfi" "cfe" are most common, I've seen some with the "c f" it would be wierd in case these can't be used on the 502 body since there are hardly any lenses left... you left me puzzled but I might be very thankfull for that in the end

Depends on your style. I would get a cheapo 80mm and see if you like the perspective. You can always resell it and get the 150mm CF or C. What's your favorite focal length with 35mm and try to replicate that.

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Although I like my 105mm in 35mm a lot I prefer my 85mm so it would be somehwere in between teh 80mm and teh 150mm for MF.

Quinten said:

Eric are you sure about that F, almost all these lenses have an F in the type name (no not the f/apendeture But "c f" "cfi" "cfe" are most common, I've seen some with the "c f" it would be wierd in case these can't be used on the 502 body since there are hardly any lenses left... you left me puzzled but I might be very thankfull for that in the end

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The 150mm 2.8 F that you mentioned (you did mention 2.8 right?) is for Focal Plane Hassys. The 150mm 4.0 CF or CFi is for 50x's and focal planes. Prices are pretty low these days. I've seen 150CF's for about $700.

If the f/stop is large (like a 35mm), it is most likely for the focal plane. The
50=f4
60=3.5
80=2.8
150=4
180=? I don't have one

Although I like my 105mm in 35mm a lot I prefer my 85mm so it would be somehwere in between teh 80mm and teh 150mm for MF.

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There's a bit of a difference depending if you measure diagonally. You can read up on TONS 'o infomation at med8fmt site. I like my 85mm also and the 150 is more like that. The "in-between" is the 120mm makro. But then the price starts going up with that lens. You won't go wrong with a 150mm or an 80mm, its just a matter of what you think you will use the most.

Thanks for explaining eric, I understand I should have the 150 f/4 now Though I am still in the dark about the 80mm since you have the f/2.8 but all the used ones I've seen mention c f behind it even with f/2.8. The 150 f/4 indeed doesn't have that f. Sorry for not understanding right away, I know it is simple

UPDATE: I've finally found it:
F: indeed is focal plane only (no shutter in the lens)
CF: Is okay since it has a leaf shutter.
C: Cumputer shutter.
FE: Is focal plane cameras only as well.

A short resume,

C- Synchro-Compur shutter, developed for the 500 series but in B setting, also operate with 2000FC and 200F focal plane bodies, being the exception to that, the 202FA.
These lenses are satin chrome, the black ones became available in the 70`s.

C T*- These optics are the same than the older C`s, the diference is the 6 layers coat to reduce flare and improve contrast.
Earlier models are satin chrome, later are black.

CF- C`s redesign, different shutter type (Prontor), handling improved and an F setting was added for operation with focal plane shutter bodies.
Self-timer removed, shutter speed and aperture rings operations are independent, cross-coupling button to move both and retain the EV setting.

CB- Lower cost alternative to the CF`s.

F- Developed for 2000FC series, similar to CF`s but without shutters, therefore, shutter speed ring removed.
Faster and closer focus than the CF`s.

FE- Developed for the 200F series, similar to F lenses but with a 4 pins electronic databus connector.
Can be used with 2000FC cameras but without taking advantage of the databus of the lenses.

CFE- CF`s with the databus of the FE`s, double blue lines (common to FE`s) and focus limiter knobs in the front.

Cheers

André