Hasselblad EL/M mirror problem and more ELM always stays up

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I just received my new batch of 'blad items. One of those is an ELM body. When everything was going OK with other items & lenses, I noticed, ELM does not fire at all.

It was in a half cycle or so, because the second curtain was open and mirror was up.

I checked battery (it is 9V adapter with battery) fuse etc. Everything was fine.

Then I did the unjam trick by using the unjam screw driver. It helped and mirror came down and second curtain closed.

However, after I press the shutter, everything went fine, camera fired, lens shutter fired but at the end of the cycle, mirror did not came down and second curtain did not close. Mirror act as it is coming down, comes halfway down but goes up again.

Now camera is acting like that, (similar to S mode as far as I understand from the user manual, but I operate it at O mode.) it fires but mirror does not go down at any mode, any setting.

If you use unjam screw driver and turn the screw, it brings back the mirro down but again as soon as I fired the camera mirror goes up and never returns.

First I though broken spring or something but, since when I use the unjam screw driver, the mirror goes down and stays down till the next firing, it seems like something did not complete the full cycle or camera can not get into O setting from S and I need to reset the camera or something.

One more thing I noticed, I can make the dial stay at S setting, It stops every other setting A, AS, O, SR but it does not stay at S.
And last data point is, the back can not be mounted because the gear mechanism which advances film by engaging to back gears is not flat. (I will be posting pictures shortly.)

I also attached some pictures of the cameras back and front.

Has anyody seen this problem before?

Any suggestions?:rolleyes:
 

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John Koehrer

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1st is the battery fully charged/fresh? I sounds as though it doesn't have enough oomph to complete the cycle. It's possible for a battery to check as good but not be able to provide enough current to operate the camera. I don't remember if there's a spring assist or not but if there's a lacking of tension it would contribute to the problem.
The light trap could be loose on it's shaft, I've seen this as a common problem on C cameras & think it may carry through to the newer cameras. The light trap is aluminum sheet that relies on tension to hold it in place. If it loosens up a bit it will rotate on the shaft & intrude into the film aperture. The fix was to get the camera to a ready to fire position & adjust/move the blind to the correct position & "adjust" the tension.
If you just bought the camera I would seriously consider returning it for repair on refund.
 

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Resetting the thing using a screwdriver does not move the entire mechanism into the correct state.

You're camera needs a repair.
Will be the reason this thing was in a batch of Hasselblad items.

The dial does not stay in "S" position. It is not supposed to.
If you want to "R"epeat the "S", use "SR".

And it's deja vu, all over again :wink:
 
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