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So I think I might be kind of screwed here, but here it goes. I was checking my 500c before taking it out to shoot and noticed that the shutter was firing randomly after the release is pressed--anywhere from right after to a few seconds after. I talked to a friend who thought it could be something with the V mode--but when I tried that the shutter didn't fire at all and now the lever is stuck over in V. This is the point where I gave up on trying to figure it out. Is there anything that can be done short of a repair?

Backup question to that, where would be a good place to get it worked on? It was probably due for a service anyway...

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So I take it the only option is to send it in?


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If you want it to work correctly, I believe that is your option.
 
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Damn. Well thanks for the help.


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Can you remove the lens from the camera? If so, do the camera shutter blinds work properly or are they the source of the sluggishness?

The lens shutter may have been okay, but now the self timer gears are gummed up and jammed.
 

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Just a guess, but I suspect the shutter gear train needs lubrication.
 

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It sounds like it needs a CLA.
 
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No mention was ever made as to how the body behaves without the lens.

The body seems to be fine--the rear curtain was closing slowly for a while, but that seems to have fixed itself. The main issue seems to be in the lens since it's still slow even when the rear curtain works as it should.
 

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The body seems to be fine--the rear curtain was closing slowly for a while, but that seems to have fixed itself. The main issue seems to be in the lens since it's still slow even when the rear curtain works as it should.

Still it is showing signs of needed a CLA, You should have it done before something breaks before the CLA was done.
 

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What'll happen is that it will just jam, as in a "hard case" jam that stubbornly refuses to unlock, and then the repairman's bill will just get bigger.

Wot he says.
 

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So I think I might be kind of screwed here, but here it goes. I was checking my 500c before taking it out to shoot and noticed that the shutter was firing randomly after the release is pressed--anywhere from right after to a few seconds after. I talked to a friend who thought it could be something with the V mode--but when I tried that the shutter didn't fire at all and now the lever is stuck over in V. This is the point where I gave up on trying to figure it out. Is there anything that can be done short of a repair?

Backup question to that, where would be a good place to get it worked on? It was probably due for a service anyway...

Thanks

You haven't said which lens is fitted. But you have a 500C. So I'm going to assume it is a C with Synchro Compur shutter. And you've said that the shutter is stuck after the timer has been set. So I'm also assuming you can't take the lens off the camera because the body mechanism has fired. As others have said getting the camera serviced sounds like a good idea. But you would probably like to be able to take the lens off the body first because at least you would then be able to inspect the lens and body individually. Which means you need to get the shutter to run off.

There are a few things that can help get the timer to run down. Firstly you can try gently wiggling the arming lever for the timer, flicking it with a fingernail gently, tapping the lens around the area of the shutter with a knuckle etc. The timer escapement won't be broken but it will be bogged down in old lube. Usually some vibration and/or gentle tickling of the escapement via the lever will get it to run off. But the idea isn't to pull the arming lever back again as you want the gears to keep running off not wind them back to the start again.

You can also try moving the shutter speed selector ring. For basically the same reasons as above this may well help to nudge the escapement enough to run the timer off and fire the shutter so that you can at least wind the camera/lens and remove the lens.

The last point is to remember to check the T switch around the release. If you've set it, it will hold the rear shutter open, and the body will appear to be jammed until it is released.

I've dealt with many, many Synchro Compur shutters that had stuck timers, including reflex versions fitted to Contaflexes (its reflex version of the Synchro Compur shutter was adapted for use in the Hasselblad C lenses) and I have never had one that could not, eventually, be persuaded to run off. Just don't force anything.
 

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You can possibly soften hardened lube in the shutter and self timer gear trains with the warmth of a hair dryer. I really don't know if there is a substantial enough amount of lube there to be softened.
 
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Check the basics first, are the color windows on the body and back lined up? Is the dark slide out? Is the counter on the film holder reset to 1? With the lens unmounted is the cocked indicator set? If not use a flat head screw driver to set it. Check if it's on T mode and try to get it off the self timer as others have mentioned. Also maybe you were in mirror lock up mode when firing that caused the delay? Good luck.
 
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Thanks everyone for the replies, I really appreciate it. Especially Brett--I got the lens unstuck off of the V mode, and the camera has now returned to the state it was in before the V debacle. So the lens will come off now and everything. Just have to unload the partially shot roll of Portra I have in there now and it will be sent off for a cla. You guys are the best.
 

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Thanks everyone for the replies, I really appreciate it. Especially Brett--I got the lens unstuck off of the V mode, and the camera has now returned to the state it was in before the V debacle. So the lens will come off now and everything. Just have to unload the partially shot roll of Portra I have in there now and it will be sent off for a cla. You guys are the best.

That's good news, glad I was able to help.
Cheers
Brett
 
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