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HARMAN technology Limited...our little surprise.....

Alright. Was just curious. Think it would look strange anyway indeed ...
 
Dear Slixtiesix,

In case you thought I was a bit 'brief', sorry, ILFORD did have some products back stamped, especially in the days of monochrome photo fininshing the 50's 60's and 70's.

Kind Regards

Simon.
 
Slixtiesix said:
Why is there no printing on the back of Ilford papers like it is the case with Fuji and Kodak RA4 Paper? Like "Ilford Galerie FB Ilford Galerie FB Ilford Galerie FB Ilford Galerie FB Ilford Galerie FB Ilford Galerie FB"
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Then we would not be able to use Ilford to make paper negtives....
 
Got my stickers in the mail today.. they look great

now I just have to learn how to make a decent fibre base print
 
You mean sticking the sticker won't make the print great?
 
Just got a shipment of Ilford Warmtone and lo and behold my stickers are inside... Can I get some advice here on how to print the damm stuff.?
 
Can I get some advice here on how to print the damm stuff.?
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Don't use it in your printer. Instead you expose it to light (but only one sheet at a time). Then you dunk it in some light brown smelly stuff for a couple or three minutes.
Then some clear smelly stuff, then some different clear smelly stuff. Then you rinse it all off.
Any questions?
 
When I finished can I write an artist statement that reflects the uniqueness of what I created?
 
You mean like this?

My work explores the relationship between the universality of myth and counter-terrorism.
With influences as diverse as Camus and Francis Bacon, new synergies are synthesised from both orderly and random textures.
Ever since I was a postgraduate I have been fascinated by the traditional understanding of the moment. What starts out as vision soon becomes finessed into a cacophony of distress, leaving only a sense of undefined and the dawn of a new undefined.
As spatial phenomena become undefined through emergent and academic practice, the viewer is left with a summary of the edges of our existence.

(borrowed from http://www.artybollocks.com)
 
I think that sums up my work quite nicely... I will use this on all my future work and not give credit where do.
thank you for this.
QUOTE=bdial;1374801]You mean like this?

My work explores the relationship between the universality of myth and counter-terrorism.
With influences as diverse as Camus and Francis Bacon, new synergies are synthesised from both orderly and random textures.
Ever since I was a postgraduate I have been fascinated by the traditional understanding of the moment. What starts out as vision soon becomes finessed into a cacophony of distress, leaving only a sense of undefined and the dawn of a new undefined.
As spatial phenomena become undefined through emergent and academic practice, the viewer is left with a summary of the edges of our existence.

(borrowed from http://www.artybollocks.com)[/QUOTE]
 
I like the sticker concept. It is important to make distinctions. A toned fiber print in the hand is unmistakable.
 
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Sounds a bit like Professor Irwin Corey profundity...
 
Simon R Galley said:
Dear Jayvo,

If you get more than 18 saleable prints FB per 50 / 100 sheets you are a better man than me!!!!

Kind Regards Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited
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Sadly from a pro lab point of view where large editions are being done it is possible to get more than 18 prints out of a box of 50/100 would the stickers be available as a separate item to those who clearly would need more?

Steve Frizza
The Lighthouse Lab
 
Hmmm... interesting idea and follow up comments. Somehow I have an odd feeling about the stickers. It has a tad of a Nascar feel to me or the never ending ads on blogs or certain forums (thank god this forum is relatively ad free). I don't believe any of us are sponsored by Ilford (that would be pretty sweet tho). And as much as I love and support Harman/Ilford and will recommend them to anyone I know and would always disclose who made my papers/film but I don't think my prints/mats/frames need to be plastered with stickers. I find it a little tacky. No offense to Simon et. al. and I highly respect your never ending effort for improvement. I think a nice pdf. form with detailed methods with room for signature and pledge to follow the prescribed methods is a little easier on the eyes. Which I believe all of us should have somewhere for potential clients anyway. Just my $0.02...

Edit: I have a box of Art 300 at home which I haven't opened yet but if anyone wants my stickers (if they are in there), PM me with your address and I'll mail them to you, no need to be wasteful
 
Stephen Frizza said:
Sadly from a pro lab point of view where large editions are being done it is possible to get more than 18 prints out of a box of 50/100 would the stickers be available as a separate item to those who clearly would need more?
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For a commercial operation, like a Lab, it might make sense to have your own stickers made, (Have to do a bit of research to ensure the adhesive and paper/ink are archival of course) along the line of "This is a Silver print made on ILFORD Brand Paper by LIGHTHOUSE LABORATORIES on the instruction of (customer Name) - We Certify that this print has been professionally Prepared to the Specifications of HARMON TECHNOLOGIES to ensure a hundred year expected Life"

I guess you would need formal permission to use the ILFORD/Harmon Trademarks.
 
As much as I like Ilford products, I really don't need a sticker on my prints, especially one that is simply marketing, much like "Calvin Klein" on a tee-shirt or the like. I like to have the viewer see my image and not be distracted by a company logo. And I am quite capable (and so are galleries) of making a label that hangs just below the print with the title, date and medium (i.e., "Silver Gelatin Print") on it so that the viewer is informed.

And my artist's statement, which is almost always hung somewhere in the show when I exhibit, explains the difference between traditional and digitally printed photographs. Other galleries that represent me have knowledgeable salespeople that know and explain the difference to customers. I think that should do the job without advertising for anyone. I also have, and have had for years, a sheet that I distribute with my photographs about proper handling, storage and display. Customers don't need to go to a web site, anyone's, not even mine.

Plus, I have and still do use papers and films from (gasp) other manufacturers besides Ilford which I am certain are high-quality and, when correctly processed, equally permanent. I don't need stickers for those either...

If I start missing sales because a customer asks, "Where is my Ilford sticker?" I might reconsider. I'll wait until then, however.

And Simon, don't misunderstand, I love Ilford and its commitment to traditional photography, I just don't need manufacturers logos on my work, heck, nothing is on any of my images except for my signature, penciled in in the lower left on the mat board below the actual photograph. That's enough.

Best,

Doremus Scudder

www.DoremusScudder.com
 
Dear Doremus,

The signature on the front is, and always has been the most important :

Mr.Frizza : I will sort your stickers out !

To all : As always, great feedback, read, understood and appreciated :

Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
 
Bob Carnie said:
Your welcome in my darkroom any time.. but we do not have any local poutine so you may have to bring your own.
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Dare I ask what Poutine is?


I'm also curious how one makes a fiber print? When I took the photo class we used something called Resin Coated (Ilford MG IV, to be exact!), is the process much different?
 
Poutine is Vladimir Putin , Russian and Soviet photographer and protector of fine artists. Local Poutine means local vladimir putin or embedded spy. Bob is an old kgb agent and reporting new technologies to washington , you see , two sided agent
 
or may be poutine is a ladyboy version of putin , we have sisi here.
 
I look forward to the stickers. One suggestion, Ilford: lose the url on the bottom of the sticker in future runs. URL's don't stand the test of time - it will soon be a dead link for one reason or other.
 
 
 
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