• Welcome to Photrio!
    Registration is fast and free. Join today to unlock search, see fewer ads, and access all forum features.
    Click here to sign up

handling of brushes for Pt/Pd coating

TheFlyingCamera

Membership Council
Advertiser
Allowing Ads
Joined
May 24, 2005
Messages
11,566
Location
Washington DC
Format
Multi Format
I was trying to coat more than one piece of paper today to do a paper-stock comparison test with palladium printing, and I ran into a problem. After coating my first piece, I washed my brush. I thought I got enough water out of it to coat the second piece, but as it turned out afterward, I was quite deceived. My second piece of paper was woefully under-coated, and so I had poor coverage and weak dmax. What do people do to solve this problem? Do you not wash between coating sheets, and just wash at the end of the coating session? keep multiple brushes around? I'm using the Richeson "magic brush" which does a gorgeous bang-up job of coating when it is dry.
 

clay

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Nov 21, 2002
Messages
1,335
Location
Asheville, N
Format
Multi Format
I always use the Richeson brush wet. I keep a beaker of distilled water in the sink, and completely soak the brush before coating - giving it 4 shakes to get rid of the really 'loose' water in the bristles. The nice thing about using it wet all the time is that you don't need more than one brush. It also takes less solution to coat a sheet if you use the brush wet. Everyone I know who uses this brush uses it wet. Give it a try!


 

sanking

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Mar 26, 2003
Messages
5,437
Location
Greenville,
Format
Large Format
The technique that many of us follow with the Richeson brush is to wet it, then shake out the water, but not so much that the bristles separate, and then coat. You repeat the wash and shaking between the first and second coats, and/or for subsequent papers.


Sandy

 

Mateo

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Sep 7, 2002
Messages
505
Location
Hollister, C
Format
Multi Format
Maybe you aren't using the magic brush properly. The way I use it is to have it loaded with distilled water before coating a sheet. I soak the thing and then flip/snap/fling the excess water from it and use it to drive/push/chase the chems that are poured from a shot glass onto the paper. If you're dipping the brush into your chems and painting the paper with it, you're wasting chemistry.
 

wm blunt

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Jul 13, 2003
Messages
171
Location
Missouri
Format
Large Format
I use the same brush that you are using but use it WET. After coating a print I rinse in hot tap water then put in a container with clearing agent for a couple minutes, then rinse again . I then use a rinse bottle of distilled water to rinse again then hang up on a closepin until next sheet. For the next sheet I use the distilled water rinse bottle to wet the brush and shake out excess water. This may be overkill but it works for me.
 

photomc

Member
Joined
Jul 20, 2003
Messages
3,575
Location
Texas
Format
Multi Format

Yep, that's the way I learned to use it (from this same guy ). And will admit that I was trying to paint the substrate on when I first started and it DID use a lot of chemistry. Now, like Mateo said...soak, flip/snap/fling - pour the chems on the paper and drive/push/chase..oh yeah, make sure the surface IS pretty level (duh?) or the chems will run all over the place. Inbetween, it goes into one of those semi-disposable containers with the blue lid...with distilled water. Don't forget to take the brush out after the session is over and give it a nice cleaning. YMMV
 

Mateo

Member
Allowing Ads
Joined
Sep 7, 2002
Messages
505
Location
Hollister, C
Format
Multi Format
wm blunt said:
I got to learn to type faster!!!


Me too. Should knowed someone would be already answering.