Let's be clear here. For the marketing-driven perception of convenience and results.
The biggest item that drove instant sales (both Kodak and Polaroid) was IMMEDIACY; the ability to share the images almost instantly. I've spent a lot of time looking at photos coming out of photofinishing processors, and it was quite common to see a roll of film that had pictures from 2 (or more) different year's Christmasses on it.
I got disgusted with the guy when I found out he was was taking vacations on the company jet, paid for by the company, at a time when people were being laid off by the thousands. When I read that he wants a bonus for taking Kodak through bankruptcy, I was appalled.
If I were an investor, I'd expect him to feel a sense of responsibility for what was happening and show some leadership by giving up his perks, skipping vacation to be there in such difficult times, and not expect to be paid for failure. I would have no faith in him any more, based on his behavior. It is not the behavior of a leader. It is an example of the increasingly common CEO-think: I've gotta get mine, regardless.
Bonuses are supposed to be incentives and rewards. Retention bonuses make sense for lower management who are not to blame for what has happened, but whose abilities are needed. Reward bonuses are tied to financial performance, so he should be getting his pay docked if anything.
Underlined of mine.
It also gave them privacy.
According to someone, the possibility to take home nude or even homemade porn photography was one of the drivers of the Polaroid success.
You couldn't do that with pictures you had to bring to the shop and get them back. I bet they were Christmases...
There are a lot of "private" images on hard disks I bet all over the world (especially the more puritan countries).
I have the impression this thing is overlooked, undertalked, but it could just have been an enormous driver in the advent of digital. The fact that you don't have to show your pictures to your shopkeeper (and hence to the entire district) is just huge. It's not just nude or porn, is anything private in nature (like your child's poo to send to your brothers, mentioned in another thread, or children nudity, or whatever else).
I worked my way through college in a photofinishing lab. You would be surprised at the number of pictures of nudes and outright porn that were sent in. Law prevented us from sending them to the customer, so the pictures were destroyed.
Since the content industry has pushed many laws by calling them protection against .....pornography The Film manufacturers could use a similiar logic digital facilitates illegal activities therefore everyone has to use film.
Excuse me but why was it forbidden/unlawful to send nudes or porn. Did you destroy the negs as well or only the prints?
Forbidden to give them to the costumers and forbidden to inform the authorities sounds like an idiotic law to say the least.
Since the content industry has pushed many laws by calling them protection against .....pornography The Film manufacturers could use a similiar logic digital facilitates illegal activities therefore everyone has to use film.
Dominik
Roger Idiotic laws are not restricted to the US. We have a fair share of them in Austria as well.
Dominik
Sorry, but the convenience and results in going to dcams are what drove the large scale consumers switch, NOT marketing-driven perception of convenience and results. The results and convenience are REAL. Particularly the IMMEDIACY part of 'convenience'. I spent 7 years working on Kodak's instant system; a lot of that time involved looking at customer surveys and customer feedback. The biggest item that drove instant sales (both Kodak and Polaroid) was IMMEDIACY; the ability to share the images almost instantly. I've spent a lot of time looking at photos coming out of photofinishing processors, and it was quite common to see a roll of film that had pictures from 2 (or more) different year's Christmasses on it. Instant, and now digital, give CONSUMERS immediacy that film doesn't offer (even with minilabs) and that's what sells!
I recognize that the above comments don't apply to the members of this forum, who, first and formost, care about the imaging technology.
To put my comment about convenience and results in an APUG approved context: George Eastman's 'You push the button, we do the rest' cameras made the underlying silver halide process completely transparent to the user, giving the user convenience and results.
Anybody have Mr Perez's email so we can tell him what we really think of him?
Do you think he cares what we think?
Geez, I'm sorry I mentioned it.
Ok, it was in the mid to late 50s. I was a teen, and I was a printer among other things. I saw the negatives, but not the prints. My boss told me that he could not let me see the prints, and he took the prints and negatives. IDK what happened to them, but I never saw them accumulate beyond a few which would represent a weeks worth of prints.
The law said that they could not be returned to the customer. The law said that for privacy purposes, the authorities were not to be informed, and it was later changed to have an exception for child porn.
Now, the problem is that it is difficult to define porn. Is a nude porn? Well, IMHO it is not. But, we could not sent out nude pix. Of course, in that day and age, there was little beyond nude pix and I never heard of child porn.
So, there you have more information. Please don't ask more. I was about 18 at that time. I hardly remember the details.
PE
Diapositivo;1395151 I have the impression this thing is overlooked said:for proof of this, go to google image search, turn off safe search, and restrict your search (with a generic term like "IMG" or "DSC" or "mobile") to one site, last 24 hours. For example:
mobile sitehotobucket.com
And that's just the people who are too dopey to figure out how to keep it to themselves. Sigh.
As for the Xerox thing, that's an apt comparison. Creepy anti-Apple zealots like to accuse Apple of stealing the mouse-driven GUI from Xerox. In fact, what Xerox had was fairly primitive, and they welcomed an offer from Apple to license the tech because the bosses didn't know what to do with it. Lots of interesting research from smart people, a paucity of turning that into successful products to expand beyond their initial area of dominance (we'll be talking about Google the same way in the not-to-distant future).
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