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How can I correct for halogen lights on slide film?
a cooling filter work for incandescent light bulbs. Is there a filter that works for halogen light bulbs?
I shoot provia 100f and it makes my indoor shots greenish.
it can look cool depending on the situation but in general it's just too green.
 

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I suspect you mean fluorescent light, not halogen. In this case, you need an FL-W filter.
 

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There were special camera filters for two types of fluorescent tubes. But these only can be a approximation, as tubes varied in their spectral design and films tool. Some data sheets gave CC-filter guides.
 

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I suspect you mean fluorescent light, not halogen. In this case, you need an FL-W filter.

A FL-W filter was intended for warmlight fluorescent tubes.

The OP rather needs the D-type filter. But see my remark above. As a filter manufacturer was even ambiguous in what kind of tubes he referred to.
You may experiment with CC-filters to yield best results on the tubes in the very case.
 

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Yes, the variance in fluorescent tubes can make it difficult to compensate. On film shoots they would replace all the practical fluorescent tubes in a scene with known bulbs they could correct for exactly. That may be a solution if it’s practical.
 

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OP comment about 'greenish' is what causes the many replies that think OP is asking about fluorescent lighting, not 'halogen'.

Generally halogens light color temp is about 3200K, while ordimarly household incandescent bulbs are about 2900K.
  • The 80 series filters allow daylight film to be better balance indoors, with tungsten lighting.
  • Tungsten film in daylight will produce a bluish cast. The 85 Series will produce natural colors when shooting with tungsten film outdoors.
 

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OP comment about 'greenish' is what causes the many replies that think OP is asking about fluorescent lighting, not 'halogen'.

Well, the OP seems confused.



A cooling filter work for incandescent light bulbs. Is there a filter that works for halogen light bulbs?

Halogen lamps ARE incandescant lamps.

The only thing that makes them special is that at their high colour temperatures they run much(!) longer and with a more steady output than plain incandescent lamps of same colour temperature.

Thus basically there is NO difference in needed filtration between them.



Incandescent lamps do not produce a greenish cast on films.
 

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Concerning slide film:
There were daylight and incandescent light versions. Which gave different casts at inapt lighting.
Meanwhile only daylight slide films are produced.
 
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That’s right! Fluorescent light. Couldn’t think of the word.
In any case I mean the lights that seem to be in all subways and trains stations in Japan anyways. Assume it’s the same everywhere else.
 

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Yes, the variance in fluorescent tubes can make it difficult to compensate.

Variance in by what spectral composition a certain color temperature was achived and variance in what types of tubes actually are used at a location. Often over time by exchanging old tubes with a different type a variance of even the colour temperatures came into existance. Thus giving a different cast depending on where the camera is aimed at.
 

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Why not try a colour temperature meter or phone app. It can help understand what type of lighting you are dealing with.
Maybe try the phone apps first and see how you get on before spending money on a meter.
 

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Not all colour-temperature meters work good at fluorescent light, you at least need a 3-band meter.
(Which excludes the early colour-temperature meters.)
 

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If it's a fluorescent light, common in offices, subways, etc, the standard filter for daylight film is an FL-D filter (mentioned above in passing). These are very common in filter kits etc. They look kind of purple to the eye. The problem is that fluorescent lighting isn't a near continuous spectrum with a well defined color temperature, so you can't just use a warming or cooling filter from the Wratten 80, 81 series etc.
 

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If it's a fluorescent light, common in offices, subways, etc, the standard filter for daylight film is an FL-D filter (mentioned above in passing). These are very common in filter kits etc.

I got literally countless filters bought locally and I regard the FL ones as super-rare.
 

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I got literally countless filters bought locally and I regard the FL ones as super-rare.

I mean filter kits like this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1203460-REG/bower_fk58c3_58mm_filter_kit.html It's a UV filter, a polarizer, and an FL-D filter, and B&H sells it for $8. These were commonly sold as sort of "kit of SLR beginners' first filters." With the advent of digital photography, the FLD is often omitted or replaced with an ND filter in the kit, on the theory that the digital white balance takes care of it.
 

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In my past experience, those FL-D filters never looked quite right with Fujichrome. Fuji has a magenta/green bias… Kodak has a red/cyan bias. I would try both films with a FL-D filter and see which one you prefer. Neither is ideal, but Fuji always has a green and pink undertone to my eye. Kodak will (green light with pink filter) also… but it seems excessive with Fuji. Good luck.
 

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I don’t know Fuji nomenclature, so didn’t realize this was reversal film, which you really have to nail. Test test test
 
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