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teejay

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Hi - so I've played around with cyanotype, kallitype, salt, albumen and van-dyke - I can get reasonably good images out of those processes but just can't get anything from gum. I haven't tried it for 18 months having given up on it but thought I'd try again today. So I mixed fresh solution of 10% potassium dichromate solution, and then used:
- 2.5 ml of the fresh potassium dichromate solution
- 2.5 ml of gum solution 14 baume (from Wet Plate Supplies UK)
- 1cm of water colour paint

Mixed that up and coated on top of a dried cyanotype - once dried exposed under my uv lamp (600 watt grow lamp) - I tried a range of exposures from 1 min to 35 min and get the usual result of no image - well the half hour one had the slightest hint of an image. For comparison 5 mins is my usual exposure for cyanotype.

Washing in water then, as you'd expect, produces nothing - the gum emulsion easily rubs off if you then move across it with a paint brush - now I guess that's a separate sizing issue ( ? ) - do you have to size the paper after you've previously developed out a cyanotype ?

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
 

Jim Noel

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Did you size the paper with a hardener?
What is the DR of your negative?
What color is the water color? Light colors print faster.
Who made the water color? Some brands work very poorly for this process.
The exposure sounds very short considering the output of your UV unit. One of my units is a 1000watt HID lamp and he exposure for some colors can be as long as 20-30 minutes.
My suggestion - On a sunny day, try an exposure using the sun.
 
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teejay

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Thanks Jim - didn't realise they would need that much exposure - and the next proper sunny day here in the UK is not scheduled until late June, if we're lucky :smile: I'll try again tomorrow and wang up the exposure and see where that gets me.
 

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Which watercolors are you using? Some brands add a uv inhibitor for permanence. I ran into this problem with carbon transfer printing.
 
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