Grainydays visits Ilford Harman (47min)

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I watched parts of the video and it's such an expensive-looking operation that it's amazing the industry is sustainable at all these days.
 

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Revenant said:
I watched parts of the video and it's such an expensive-looking operation that it's amazing the industry is sustainable at all these days.
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the one thing is that compaired to the recent Video of the Kodak Operation, the Harman plant seems to be requiring fewer staff for many of the steps. Now that may be because the staff were told to stay away when the Blogger was around.
 
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I like his sense of humor but can't watch for more than 5-10 minutes because he keeps calling films "filmstocks".

I get it. A language is a living and ever-changing phenomena. Youtubeglish is popular on social media. Probably some kid a couple of years ago saw another influencer talk about movie film stocks, and thought he sounded cool by appending "stock" to photo films instead of his socks, bagels, or whatever. But as much as I want to be flexible, my ears begin ringing and I get insta-headache for about 30 seconds when he hits me with "filmstock". And he keeps doing it about 30 seconds or so... :-( Can't do it.
 

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movie folks talk about "Raw Stock" (unexposed film) to distinguish from a Movie (Un film de Fred Smith) so it is legitimate English.

Film stock - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(how about that: one image on that page is mine. Sadly all three subjects have gone to the rainbow bridge)
 

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@cmacd123 e-commerce websites also say "out of stock" when something is not present. This is an English word, but it has absolutely nothing to do with a roll of HP5+ or Portra 400. Influencers are using it incorrectly. Just because movie films are called stocks does not mean we're eating bagel stocks, driving motorcycle stocks, wearing sock stocks, visiting Photrio on our browser stocks, or wiping our asses with toilet paper stocks.
 

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Out of stock does describe perfectly a roll of HP5+ that is NOT THERE!

English is a wonderful language, but does have the distinction of being spoken by a large number of people - some of which use it as a second language, and others who use it in Specialized fields.

Film Stock, to refer to the physical media itself, Is quite a common term - particularly in the entertainment industry . here is another example of the useage..

The Different Types of Film Stock (& Which You Should Choose)

Film stock is a physical analog medium used for recording images and consists of a celluloid base and coated with light-sensitive emulsion.
www.studiobinder.com
 

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to add to the confusion of course - ownership stakes in Publicly traded companies are also called (in some cases) stocks. Someone investing in the "Stock Market" might ask for the curent Price of KODK on the NYSE.

Eastman Kodak Company (KODK) stock price, news, quote & history – Yahoo Finance

Find the latest Eastman Kodak Company (KODK) stock quote, history, news and other vital information to help you with your stock trading and investing.
sg.finance.yahoo.com
 

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I can see why the "film stock" language has migrated from motion picture film to being applied more generally.
Historically well funded motion picture productions who wanted to shoot on Kodak camera "stock" would choose the film stock from various types, and from various sources, because it was produced in a variety of locations around the world. If a particular version of the film stock was manufactured by Kodak Pathe in France, for example, it would be slightly different than the same version of film stock manufactured by Eastman Kodak in Rochester.
It was important for issues of continuity and efficiency that all the camera film used on a production was either from the same batch or was from batches that were well matched to each other.
That very close attention paid to the small differences between different selections of the same film was mostly found in the motion picture world, but people like Mr. Bill would probably tell you that it was also found elsewhere, in places like catalogue photography and large portrait chains.
It is most likely that use of that term migrated because it has similarities to the "pixel peeping" mindset that is today so common.
That and the fact that, at least outside of the remaining large film manufacturers, so many of the film offerings are small batch and individualistic - even if the individualism turns out to be more packaging and labelling than anything else.
 

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You all sound like a lot of grumpy old Psychiatrists going around wearing Birkenstocks.
 

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I think it is reasonable to use the term "film stock" to refer to different photographic films, since questions like "What's your favourite film?" can be ambiguous even outside a motion picture context.
 

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I watched the whole video,
It's really contrasts but the photos are kinda soft
Seems like they are running a skeleton crew, I'll start buying delta 100.
As for Phoenix, I'm a little colorblind, but I don't really like it.
 

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I wonder what people in Fawnix, Arizona think of it? Probably they'd need four cups of coffee just to stay awake the whole time, just everyone else. If that guy is actually from California, it must be Sausalito. Characteristically, once he finally showed up at Harman, the people waiting for him were wearing white coats, slowly encircling him in order to put him in a straightjacket.

That he called the factory fluorescent tube lighting "tungsten" and couldn't figure out why the shots turned out greenish, was a blatant poke in the eye. Wry sense of humor, that's for sure.
 
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