fyi: last el-nikkors were made in china

JW PHOTO · Oct 10, 2014

blockend said:
Growing up in the industrial north of England, all the rivers looked like that. Now they're full of wild trout, and increasingly salmon, because we don't manufacture anything. The Western world has become a service sector for the East. Low pay, no job security or holidays, impoverished accommodation is the price someone has to pay for our cheap items.

Very well said! Here in the USA it's the same only our corporations and their CEO's are reaping in huge profits at the expense of American labor. If it keeps going it will be a replay of the Roman Empire all over again. I'm glad I won't live long enough to see it, but I pity my offspring. John W

benjiboy · Oct 10, 2014

China was a highly developed scientific and mercantile society when people in Britain were painting their faces with woad and living in mud and wattle huts and before the first european first set foot in North America, what I find deeply ironic is that the worlds biggest communist state is beating the rest of the world at capitalism.

250swb · Oct 10, 2014

blockend said:
Low pay, no job security or holidays, impoverished accommodation is the price someone has to pay for our cheap items.

Which is how it was in our own industrial revolution for workers, but it is hypocritical getting all righteous to tell other people they cannot go through a similar evolution in their own society. If the Chinese economy isn't allowed to find its own natural level it becomes the same scenario where a country says 'it looks better over there, why have they got what we haven't got' and then the tanks are given an extra service and coat of paint.

Steve

pdeeh · Oct 10, 2014

blockend said:
Low pay, no job security or holidays, impoverished accommodation is the price someone has to pay for our cheap items.

and those things are rapidly returning to the UK ...

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fotch said:
From what I have read, China is the #1 thief of company & government secrets. Cheaper to steal, copy, other ideas, designs, etc., than to pioneer you own, if its true. Probably everyone does it, they just do it better ?

stealing ideas isn't a chinese monopoly the american industrial revolution begun samuel slater in 1790
by using plans / (arkwright loom) design he stole ( memorized ) from england.
the idea for cotton candy + the design for the contraption that makes it was stolen and presented at
one of the worlds fairs, the the seal that is in a bottle cap ( that used to be cork, not rubbery )
was stolen from the people who designed it ... there is a giant list ... all american ...

not a chinese concept at all. i am sure it is not the only place that uses other people's ideas for their own at present.

benjiboy · Nov 7, 2014

I have never bought a product that was made in China including the computer I'm writing this post on that I have found in any way inferior to Western made products.

fyi: last el-nikkors were made in china

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