FUJIFILM Launches GF670 in USA
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Curious that their competing with the Voigtländer branded version of the same camera in the US market.
They can bring this overpriced pile in, but not Quickloads?
Fuji didn't simply decide not to bring Quickloads into the US, it is discontinuing Quickloads worldwide.
:rolleyes:
I always thought QLs were way overpriced though. If they couldn't lower that price then it was a doomed product anyway.
Wolfeye said:
Now that is a damned good point! I guess they'd propose for us to shoot ektar.... or wait patiently 'til they introduce a digital back for this camera
:rolleyes:
I always thought QLs were way overpriced though. If they couldn't lower that price then it was a doomed product anyway.
Now that is a damned good point! I guess they'd propose for us to shoot ektar.... or wait patiently 'til they introduce a digital back for this camera
Quickloads aere covered by a Polaroid patent and they had to pay Royalties I think, remember that the first were the Polaroid Quickload version loaded with Fuji 100D.
Polaroid wouldn't give Fuji a license to use their Instant film in the single sheet format, but Polaroid couldn't stop Fuji using Film packs as plenty of other companies had taken out prior patents.
Fuji may want to circumvent the Voigtlander importer in the US who may be artificially keeping the GF670 price high. In other threads we've heard how US importers (Mamiya, Nikon etc) register Manufacturers trade names in the US preventing third parties from importing and selling the same product, or the manufacturer changing distributors easily themselves.
Ian
Wait, you think the Fuji price will be lower than the Voigtlaender price? I'd be shocked. Well let's see!
I suspect it has more to do with sales not being what they want, and so they will try pushing them under a different label at the same price. This strategy is not without precedent in the camera industry.
RE: QLs and RLs, they were always high-priced relative to sheet film, as I recall. With film costs are soaring, people will simply stop paying that premium just for the convenience. To me it makes perfect sense to discontinue those. If RLs or QLs were eating into Fuji or EK's bottom line then for the good of the rest of their products, they must go. Otherwise the RLs and QLs will necessarily drag up the price of the related film products.
Silver version kind of reminds me of my Kodak Tourist (though the Tourist had grey plastic). Something about the slightly rounded corners.
I know this. I am just grumbling facetiously.
Not True
If It's Fuji Reala you're refering to Unique Photo in New Jersey are selling it in 120 Dead Link Removed and there's plenty available in the rest of the world, It's only the US where there are problems, Fuji UK will ship worldwide .
I believe that's old stock. It's not expired or anything like that, but there isn't going to be any more made.
Quite a lot of threads on this, but with two general themes: Reala in 120 is discontinued, or, Reala in 120 is no longer imported into the US.
Is there now proof of Reala 120's global death?
so now is the time to fill you're freezer.
*grin*
Don't count on it, at least not from Unique Photo. I nearly ordered some, but when I got to checkout I couldn't agree with their terms, namely, that "In Stock" is only an estimate, and your credit card will be charged at order time. Their reputation isn't stellar enough (from resellerratings.com) to warrant my trust.
As to Reala 120's global demise, I can't say. I was shocked to find it listed as Discontinued on B&H website.
Amazon USA are selling it http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...0?ie=UTF8&qid=1265306910&sr=8-1&condition=all
Appreciate the effort, but that one is even worse. Going through Amazon it charges you $5 a roll for shipping. Yep. Five dollars PER ROLL. I like Reala, but not $8 a roll worth!
It's a sad state of affairs when the only people left selling something are the ones you'd never buy from.
I remember an exchange about this seller (on Amazon) from a while back. IIRC, the gist of it was that Amazon sets the shipping fee and to contact him directly for a prearranged shipping reduction on multiple roles. Personally, I think even listing it with that type of per roll shipping is counterproductive, but if you want it I do think you can get it without an outrageous shipping charge.
I finally decided to order from Great Britain. The website is:
http://www.fujilab.co.uk/catalog/
And it worked out, best guessing the currency conversion, to about $5.40 a roll. I'm in no hurry so it's fine to order from overseas.
Appreciate the effort, but that one is even worse. Going through Amazon it charges you $5 a roll for shipping. Yep. Five dollars PER ROLL. I like Reala, but not $8 a roll worth!
It's a sad state of affairs when the only people left selling something are the ones you'd never buy from.
So true, and that is why they have stock: no one wants to deal with them.
When I lived in New Jersey (Morristown) I used to go to Unique every so often. As a physical store they were fine. I tried to purchase some file a year ago and they were nothing but trouble. Sad...
At about $2200 I personally believe the Bessa III 667 is a very reasonably priced piece of equpment. It is very compact and has what is probably the sharpest 75mm lens that has ever been made for the 6X7 cm format.
For over-priced have a look at the going price of used Plaubel Makina 670 folders. Typically they go for $2500 and up, often over $3000, and average over 10-15 years old. And compared to the Bessa III the lens of the Plaubel Makina is not as sharp, and the body is known to have several weak points that break down.
Most of the people I know who have purchased the Bessa III do not consider it over-priced at all. Course, I understand that there are some folks on this forum who live in the clouds and thought Fuji would bring this camera to the market for less than $1k. I guess those people probably consider it over-priced. To me over-priced would be a DSLR that I might pay $3k for in 2010, and with luck it will be worth $500 in four years. I am willing to bet that in five years the Bessa III will sell used for a very high percentage of the selling price new today.
Sandy
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I understand your concerns with terms like Unique Photos, but I recently stocked up on Reala (50 rolls, two separate orders) and they were fine. Shipped quickly, expiration date of 2012, and including shipping worked out to$4.29 per roll.
Overpriced to me is any camera over $1000 that is not a system camera; new or used. I am sure it is a lovely camera...and of course I didn't think it would go for under $1,000...but I certainly didn't think that any fixed-lens camera would cost much more than that; certainly not over $1,500. I just don't understand who the people are who are buying them. People with lots of disposable income to spend on something that is just a niche camera, I guess. If it was more versatile, I would "get it".
So the "Hasselblad" version may still be to come? :rolleyes:
Just for the record, the fixed lens Fuji GWIII and GSWIII 67 and 69 cameras, which don't even have built in exposure meters, were selling for street price of $1700-$1900 ten years ago. Is it reasonable to expect that a much more sophisticated camera like the Bessa III, one with dual format potential and automatic exposure control, could sell for less than that today?
When the Fuji 667 folder was announced a couple of years ago I predicted that its price would be over $2K. My thinking was based primarily on the selling price of the Fuji GWIII and GSWIII cameras in the early 2000s, and in part on the continued strong market for the Plaubel Makina 67 folders, which as I pointed out earlier routinely sell for more than the price of a new Bessa III.
It is obviously important to understand that what may seem a reasonable price to one person may seem totally unreasonable to another person with different goals and objectives, interests and pocketbook I personally find it difficult to understand why anyone would would spend $15,000 -$20,000 on a Leica MP or M7 body and three of four aspherical lenses but there appear to be some people who are willing to do so.
Sandy King
When the Fuji 667 folder was announced a couple of years ago I predicted that its price would be over $2K. My thinking was based primarily on the selling price of the Fuji GWIII and GSWIII cameras in the early 2000s, and in part on the continued strong market for the Plaubel Makina 67 folders, which as I pointed out earlier routinely sell for more than the price of a new Bessa III.
It is obviously important to understand that what may seem a reasonable price to one person may seem totally unreasonable to another person with different goals and objectives, interests and pocketbook I personally find it difficult to understand why anyone would would spend $15,000 -$20,000 on a Leica MP or M7 body and three of four aspherical lenses but there appear to be some people who are willing to do so.
Sandy King
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