Fujifilm Bulk Rolls

MattKing said:

Yes for colour, no for B&W - for those who remain willing to pay for it.

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OK but can you say specifically why the difference, Matt? I must have asked this question about 3 times already with no specific answer. If you don't know then just say so. No shame in that. If your answer has to include some speculation than fine as well as long as it is clear in what areas you like the rest of us are not privy to the certain information and are having to use some conjecture

Thanks

pentaxuser

pentaxuser said:

OK but can you say specifically why the difference, Matt?

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Because disrupting the much higher volume, much more profitable colour manufacturing line costs a lot more than disrupting the much lower volume, lower profit black and white manufacturing line.

MattKing said:

Because disrupting the much higher volume, much more profitable colour manufacturing line costs a lot more than disrupting the much lower volume, lower profit black and white manufacturing line.

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OK Matt. Yes I understand that on that basis it may cost more to disrupt the more profitable colour line but it appears to cost something in the b&w line that still eats into Kodak profit. However that brings us back to the fact that bulk rolls still cost Kodak money just not as much, so it weighs the cost of displeasing its b&w bulk roll buyers against the price of still doing b&w bulk rolls and has decided it worth the cost to retain its bulk roll customers

Mind you and assuming Kodak is still in the state where every penny counts it's still a bit of a puzzle why bulk b&w rolls haven't been stopped

pentaxuser

They do make money on bulk rolls. But just like with all products - and all manufacturers - the amount made or lost varies among the products.
The art (in business) is in balancing the pros and cons and in turn the immediate vs. long term.
You could say it isn't all black and white (pun intended).

pentaxuser said:

Mind you and assuming Kodak is still in the state where every penny counts it's still a bit of a puzzle why bulk b&w rolls haven't been stopped

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Perhaps at the price they currently are charging they can still do it at a profit. even the price of 5222 (Bought in 400ft rolls) has been climbing to almost a US dollar a foot.

in the Simon Galley days, Ilford did say that they understood that bulk rolls were a way for some specific customers to save a few dollars, and that most of the customers would not find them worth the Hassle.

cmacd123 said:

Perhaps at the price they currently are charging they can still do it at a profit.

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Yes it appears from Matt's reply that they can and do make a profit from bulk rolls of b&w but you'd need to be a real lover of the benefits of Kodak film and bulk rolls to be bothered. Oh, and have deep pockets as well, especially in the U.K.

pentaxuser