fuji provia 35mm on sale at B&H

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Nearly bought some film from B&H but then i realised shipping + customs and this and that would mean i would be paying over 100 USD for 5 rolls of Provia 100F.... no thanks!
5.75 / roll is a pretty damn good price for Provia 100F.
Maybe it's some stock that is going to expire soon? still, if it has been refrigerated ( being a Pro film and that it's B&H we're talking about, almost surely it has ) it should be just fine.
 
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What could this mean? That it's getting past its sell before date, and they have a fresh shipment, or that it's about to be discontinued?

When FP was discontinued, B&H raised the price. I'm thinking it's the former.
 

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1kgcoffee said:
What could this mean? That it's getting past its sell before date, and they have a fresh shipment, or that it's about to be discontinued?

When FP was discontinued, B&H raised the price. I'm thinking it's the former.
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Maybe a price drop to spur interest prior to Ektachrome being re-released?
 

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Beyond simply speculating, it might be that B&H is trying to shift idle stock. This discount is applicable to 35mm, and 35mm is the very poor seller (and has been for many years) of transparency film -- this is the market that is just not there, never mind what Kodak would have you believe. Pro Packs of Velvia 50, Provia100F and Velvia100F collapsed in the market around 2009 and have never recovered. That is why Velvia 50 / 35mm in Pro Packs has also been discontinued. Lots of wooping and fancy statements here on Photrio, but nobody is spending thousands and thousands to rev the market up. Too late. A market for 35mm? Nope. That ship has sailed long ago.

It is very, very uncommon to see larger formats discounted because there are more users of those formats. Other factors concern the retail pricing of transparency film: for a long time has been and continues to be considered as pricey and not of "good value" to amateurs. Professionals using transparency film can still spend around $2,000 a month for the stuff when they are printing from it (in the days of Ilfochrome Classic, expenditure of $3 to $4,000 a month on key transparency stock was common, even more when Kodachrome was a staple along with Fuji for Ilfochrome printing). If people are only going to project 35mm transparency, it is essentially wasted, as there is so much more potential if people would knuckle down and learn about it. Transparency film has a history in print production and that's why there are those that hang on to this and continue to derive the very best results that are available now as they were before digital took hold.
 

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Picked up one pack. Thanks for the tip! Could have been scrounging around on eBay and probably paid more had it not been for this.

And of course I "remembered" about some more stuff I had to get so I could spend more than the $49 free shipping threshold.
 

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I find it amazing how always somebody manages to on purpose spin good news into bad news on this forum... why??
So if you had the power to influence Kodak's decisions you'd tell them not to make Ektachrome in 35mm right?? Because that ship sailed long ago... nevermind it's still the most used film format and the fact that it is a stepping stone for many people towards using other formats too...
 
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For those products in healthy markets where there are multiple competing sources, a B&H "sale" is good news.
But for other products, where the B&H phenomena has been quite destructive to wide spread use and availability, a B&H "sale" can be worrisome.
 

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Who cares why it's on sale, it just is, i know that if i could somehow buy film from B&H with free shipping and customs to Spain i'd probably have ordered 10-20 rolls
 

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Poisson Du Jour said:
There is a sale of Provia 100F here too — a "clearance sale" (!)
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Clearance sale is a good note to find out the reason of nice pricing.
(In the past Fuji made a name by doing the oposite)
Well clearance is meant when a product is originally saled and is shipped back.
Because of no need (the ammound was to big).
Fuji may give a part of the money back
for example 60% of the originally full paid order.
After this Fuji is able to flash sale a obviously great ammound of this emulsions and B&H is one of Fujis clients
to come into new business with factory saled films in original brand new condition. Perhaps "nearly brand new"
Should we at last ask about Agfa Photo -
or is this case solved from now on ?

with regards
 

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RattyMouse said:
Fujifilm doesnt care about film so your idea doesnt hold much weight.
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Maybe Fuji wants to get rid of all their E-6 film before it become worthless . Fuji is still making great instant film, great slide film, great film! You could be right. I'm glad Fuji has survived, I sure wish they still made medium format rangefinders and the Xpan.
 

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When something for which there actually is very little demand is discontinued, the price tends to plummet.

When something that people actually want is discontinued, the price tends to skyrocket.

Cases in point:

Case 1: Old computers. At least those that aren't collectors items. You can get a computer from 1995 for a mere fraction of what it cost when it was new. This being because nobody except for a very small (probably low hundreds) handful of collectors wants a 1995 PC!

Case 2: Fuji instant packfilm. Still priced at ~250% its original cost, years after its discontinuation. This demonstrates a continuing demand for the product that could definitely be exploited, albeit possibly at lower volumes.

When something like E6 film is discontinued, the price skyrockets much like FP instant products. If nobody wanted it, the price would plummet instead.

This means the market may indeed be ripe for more E6. Especially with the current market being cornered by Fuji. The introduction of Kodak back into the ring (as long as they price their new Ektachrome competitively) will (finally) put pressure on Fuji and cause prices to fall. It could be like the Ford Model T - people do indeed want to buy it, but the price is simply too high.
 

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The near total lack of labs developing E6 tells you how little of it is actually being shot.
 

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I was planning on waiting for EktaChrome to return before buying new slide film, but this was too good of a deal to ignore. I love slide film, but to be honest, don't shoot it that much, maybe 4-6 rolls a year, usually for special occasions such as vacations. I still have a pro-pack of Velvia 50 I haven't opened.

Development is still readily available by mail, and getting more expensive, but still worth the price. My longer term concern is the ongoing availability of 35mm slide mounts.

I hope the B&H sale is just to make room for fresh stock, and not a proxy for poor sales.
 

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RattyMouse said:
The near total lack of labs developing E6 tells you how little of it is actually being shot.
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It tells you nothing really. There are probably a hundred or more labs in the US alone still processing E6, some capable of large volumes. (A single lab was capable of keeping up with Kodachrome processing worldwide in its final days.) This doesn't take into account the people who are processing E6 themselves, and still others who are cross-processing it.
 
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