Fuji pro 400 H

cs_foto · Apr 19, 2010

naugastyle said:
As for the 800Z...I have shot some at 2 years expired, room temp and it was fine.

However, my experiences with expired 800NPZ--actually refridgerated--was not nearly so good. Much more visible grain, seeming loss of speed (underexposed when shot at 800).

Was that a purple coat? and purple boxes?

or is that some kind of Infra Red filtration?

benjiboy · Apr 19, 2010

sepiareverb said:
400H and 800Z are my main color films these days.

400H:

M7 / 28/2.0 ASPH

800Z:

M5 / 50/2.0

(lab scans)

That's amazing quality for such a fast film I'm impressed, unfortunately in the UK Fuji are going to stop importing 800Z because they say they don't sell enough to justify it. I don't often need such fast film, but I'm going to buy 10 rolls to freeze. I don't know what the situation is in the U.S with 800Z.

perkeleellinen · Apr 19, 2010

I'm using 800Z a lot and it's tragic it's not going to be imported anymore, although there does seem to be a lot of it about. Superia 800 will be my replacement, I actually think it shows slightly less grain than 800Z, colours are punchier, but, of course, it can exaggerate ruddy skin.

naugastyle · Apr 19, 2010

cs_foto said:
Was that a purple coat? and purple boxes?

or is that some kind of Infra Red filtration?

Yes, all the colors are normal...slight cast due to being shot under a bridge. The picture I posted was of the expired room-temp 800Z that I thought held up well, not the expired refrigerated 800NPZ that didn't.

benjiboy · Apr 19, 2010

perkeleellinen said:
I'm using 800Z a lot and it's tragic it's not going to be imported anymore, although there does seem to be a lot of it about. Superia 800 will be my replacement, I actually think it shows slightly less grain than 800Z, colours are punchier, but, of course, it can exaggerate ruddy skin.

They are still importing 400 H, you could push it one stop

perkeleellinen · Apr 19, 2010

That's an idea, in another thread we discussed that option. But I do quite like Superia 800, so long as I'm careful with portraits.

cs_foto · Apr 19, 2010

naugastyle said:
Yes, all the colors are normal...slight cast due to being shot under a bridge. The picture I posted was of the expired room-temp 800Z that I thought held up well, not the expired refrigerated 800NPZ that didn't.

Cool, just wondering as I have some expired (for very long) NPHII 800 and NPZ 800

Does anyone know about the NPHII800, how it compares to NPZ 800?

sepiareverb · Apr 19, 2010

I'm always amazed by the lack of grain in 800Z- I often find it less grainy than 400H. I've stocked up so will have it through the summer. I'm going to shoot it in the woods this summer in 120 and 135.

400H is no slouch...

400H under very mixed light:

perkeleellinen · Apr 20, 2010

The great thing about H and Z is that if you do RA4 printing they both print on very, very, similar filter packs. You can treat them as the same film when making test prints.

Athiril · Apr 20, 2010

Leighgion said:
Try going all the way and sampling Portra 800 or some remaining stock of the sadly discontinued Fuji 800z. Both are incredible for 800 speed color.

Its still made for other markets iirc though?

Simply called "Pro 800" as opposed to 800Z.

benjiboy · Apr 20, 2010

Athiril said:
Its still made for other markets iirc though?

Simply called "Pro 800" as opposed to 800.

I think the importers in different countrys have differt policys on what they wish to buy from Fuji Japan.

Athiril · Apr 20, 2010

Hmm it doesnt really affect me, I buy all my Fuji and Kodak through eBay (fresh not expired), since its about 1/4th the price to import it from overseas and pay shipping than any place in Australia that sells it.

Thomas Bertilsson · Apr 20, 2010

Works great for Holga too...

I find the 400 speed films to be great for the Holga exposure wise, unless you're shooting with the sun at zenith. Can't do better than NPH400 I think.

benjiboy · Apr 21, 2010

I really can't believe how good these films are, both Fuji and Kodak, I'm going to buy some of it in 120 and try it in my Mamiya, and some 120 Ektar I just got hold of recently.

Matt5791 · Apr 25, 2010

It's worth mentioning that 400H is currently unavailable from Fujifilm UK because they are waiting for more from Japan. Recent surges in demand for film have taken them by suprise (Acros 120 and Neopan 135 had similar problems recently.)

For me, Kodak offers the most extensive line up in Colour Negative and Fuji the most extensive in colour reversal - Fuji have narrowed and continue to narrow thier offering in colour negative with the discontinuance of 160S in 35mm (this may only be UK, I can't speak for the rest of the world) and the recent deletion of the 5 roll pro-packs of 35mm.

Kodak on the other hand has a full line up of Portra in all pack sizes, including the great value 20 roll 120 packs. And they continue to expand the range of colour negative with Ektar and now Ektar sheet film.

For me, Portra is simply the greatest medium for shooting people. I use it for weddings in all speeds and varients depending on the conditions. I'm just staggered by it every time - you just take the shot and you have something beautiful straight out of the camera - this is why there are many pro's who still like to shoot film.

160NC - straight scan with a Noritsu. I just love the delicate tones.

wblynch · Apr 25, 2010

There's a lot of love out there for Portra 160nc but in the Southern California sun my Portra pictures always look washed out or pastel-y. (don't care for Fuji 160 S or C either)

I think I'll try some Fuji Pro 400H.

DanielStone · Apr 25, 2010

wblynch,

make sure to use a UV filter here in So-cal, really helps! you can also use a skylight-1a filter which helps to warm things up a tad as well.

cheers!

-Dan

A_M_Johnson · Apr 26, 2010

wblynch said:
There's a lot of love out there for Portra 160nc but in the Southern California sun my Portra pictures always look washed out or pastel-y. (don't care for Fuji 160 S or C either)

I think I'll try some Fuji Pro 400H.

Portra is really true to color. This works against you if you don't correct with filters for situations you describe. Once you correct the WB through filters, your pictures will look right.

wblynch · Apr 26, 2010

Portra is so true you need correction. No Thanks. I'd rather shoot Gold 100 or Ektar or Fujicolor.

Actually I don't think Portra is true because it doesn't register the colors I saw at the scene. If I have to adjust white balance for every situation I might as well succumb to the digital monster.

hrst · Apr 26, 2010

You can adjust color balance to overcome white balance problems in post processing stage by changing the filtration. This is how the digital monster works.

Portra has incredible exposure latitude, which also means good chances to be able to correct for color casts, if you just give enough exposure to avoid placing blue curve on the toe. Well this is true to almost any color neg film. Take advice, but don't believe everything on the Internet to the letter... Everything's so relative, depending on one's needs and taste.

benjiboy · Sep 6, 2010

Thomas Bertilsson said:
Hi Ben,
You've been shooting color film longer than I've been alive. But I've seen a fair amount of color prints from ye olden days, and the difference in color, contrast, detail, and grain is startling between now and then.
Then we pick up a Hasselblad camera from the 1960s and make perfect pictures with it, and I doubt their modern lenses are noticeably better to the naked eye.
Very true statement.
- Thomas

Hi Thomas,
They've known how to make good cameras and lenses for a long time, but the manufacturers are under great pressure to re-invent the wheel on a regular basis to keep the wheels of industry turning and ensure their continued existence. the advent of digital imaging has been a godsend for them, and enabled them to sell millions of cameras to people who already have them.

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