Fuji Artdol characteristics

Willie Jan · Jun 21, 2006

does anybody know what the characteristics of fuji artdol are?
Looks like it is developed for the fuji across sheet film, but amost no info can be found on the web.

I found this developer at a japanese website along with more film we do not have here in europe (www.unicircuits.com/shop)

Willie Jan.

Ryuji · Jun 21, 2006

It's an MQ developer buffered with borate-carbonate buffer at pH about 8.7. One thing about this developer is that it contains sodium chloride.

gnashings · Jun 21, 2006

Ryuji said:
It's an MQ developer buffered with borate-carbonate buffer at pH about 8.7. One thing about this developer is that it contains sodium chloride.

Ah, that explains everything. Especially to those of us without degrees in chemistry. But damn, that Ryuiji is super-smart! It would be great for all of us subhumans if he put as much effort into sharing his knowledge as into making sure we're all painfully aware of that fact...over, and over.. and over...

Peter.

Willie Jan · Jun 21, 2006

Ryuji said:
It's an MQ developer buffered with borate-carbonate buffer at pH about 8.7. One thing about this developer is that it contains sodium chloride.

Could you tell me what this has as result for the film?
my chemical knowledge does not go this deep....

Ryuji · Jun 21, 2006

I didn't study this developer in great detail so I am reluctant to say much more than that. It didn't interest me enough to study or say anything further. Maybe another thing I might say is that DK-50 is perhaps one of similar developers, although there are differences.

gainer · Jun 21, 2006

gnashings said:
Ah, that explains everything. Especially to those of us without degrees in chemistry. But damn, that Ryuiji is super-smart! It would be great for all of us subhumans if he put as much effort into sharing his knowledge as into making sure we're all painfully aware of that fact...over, and over.. and over...

Peter.

You don't need a degree in chemistry to understand what Ryuji says. It helps if you learn to use a library, where you can follow a trail marked out by Ryuji. You would figure that the sodium chloride, in sufficient concentration, might be an effort to reduce grain size.

I have noticed that Ryuji seems to go down through the questions posted in APUG from time to time and generously contribute a comment on anything of which he has knowledge. He has a right to assume from the nature of the questions asked how far up the line his comments can be. If his comments appear to be self agrandizing because we do not fully understand them, further questioning is more in order than condemnation.

Ryuji · Jun 21, 2006

Patrick, thanks, but save your time. This is not the first time gnashings posted this kind of things and there is no use in reacting to it. Basically, he is emotionally attacking me about something that does not exist outside his imagination.

Like you said I try to respond to questions, especially when I have answer, but I don't always have 20 minutes to sit in front of a computer to write a chapter of a book when I see the question. Most people understand that I'm not obligated to do so, nor I am paid to do so.

Gerald Koch · Jun 22, 2006

Willie Jan said:
does anybody know what the characteristics of fuji artdol are?
Looks like it is developed for the fuji across sheet film

I could be wrong but I think Artdol was in existence before the Acros films were developed. This is not to say that Artdol is not useful in processing Acros films but I wouldn't go out of my way to obtain it. There are other MQ developers like D-76 that could be used.

Ryuji · Jun 22, 2006

Gerald Koch said:
I could be wrong but I think Artdol was in existence before the Acros films were developed. This is not to say that Artdol is not useful in processing Acros films but I wouldn't go out of my way to obtain it. There are other MQ developers like D-76 that could be used.

Artdol is made for tray processing of sheet films, and Acros is the only b&w panchromatic sheet film they make. So that's the story. DK-50 and HC-110 are Kodak developers designed for sheet film processing and DK-50 in particular is closer to Artdol than D-76. D-76 would be finer grained and slower working.

Paddy · Jun 23, 2006

gnashings said:
But damn, that Ryuiji is super-smart!

Ouch. Nurse, get this poor subhuman two paracetamol/acitaminophens,...STAT!!!

Willie Jan · Jun 23, 2006

i just found the silvergrain website, where is a lot of info available.

if this developer is only for tray development of sheets it's probably not the best solution but made so that there is less oxidation with air or something...

Ryuji · Jun 23, 2006

Thanks for promoting my website but the link that you gave (under Photo-Tech) is soon to be removed from the server. The same content has been moved to the new wiki-based platform and you can search for info by keyword there. (There are a lot more than what you see linked from the wiki top page.)

Dead Link Removed

Artdol would work in small tanks just like DK-50 or HC-110 does. But then sheet film developers tend to put focus on different factors than developers for small formats. Grain is unimportant but shorter development time, moderately higher accutance, etc. become more important. Of course, resistance to aerial oxidation is important for tray processing.

RJ- · May 27, 2023

I thought this 17 year old thread needed an update.

It doesn't seem like there are many users of this unusual salt containing developer specifically engineered for large format sheet film using 'flash development' times of 2 -3 minutes.

The principle of flash development (from toe to curve), reduces the bromide drag build up and presents a more consistent streak free development of the sheet ... perhaps at the expense of the tonal scale. I'm still on the fence about this idea.

In any case I think the developer is no longer available outside of Japan. This is an example shot on a Silvestri Hermes 5x4 inch architectural camera, Schneider Super Angulon 75/5.6 lens on Rollei Infrared Film developed in Fuji Artdol 1:3 dilution for 3 minutes.

I've not submitted the times to the Digital Truth site since there isn't any demand for this developer now however in the case a photographer is interested, this thread pops up in the ecofriendly www.ecosia.org websearch which plants trees to make up for the fallen ones.

Image: Fallen Tree, Crowhurst, Kent (England)

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