Fuji Acros Returns in Autumn with Acros II in 35mm & 120

RetroFuture · Jun 10, 2019

It looks like Fuji is bringing back Acros in the form of a new version-- Acros II!

Great news for people that appreciated the film. I also posted this in the availability forum but thought it was big enough news to go here as well. The press release notes that they decided to release it after the feedback they got. They claim improved characteristics with sharper highlights among other things.

Article on Emulsive:
https://emulsive.org/articles/news/...cros-ii-announced-begins-shipping-autumn-2019

Google translate to press release:
https://translate.google.com/transl...lm.co.jp/corporate/news/articleffnr_1430.html

Richard Man · Jun 10, 2019

I wonder what the Fujifilm haters will say....

brbo · Jun 10, 2019

Richard Man said:
I wonder what the Fujifilm haters will say....

Where is Reala, Neopan and 400X?!

iandvaag · Jun 10, 2019

What a time to be alive! Yippee!

Paul Green · Jun 10, 2019

How exciting!

Agulliver · Jun 10, 2019

Excellent news. I'm not an Acros user but this is great news for those who do want to use it....and for us all, as it means Fuji really aren't exiting the photo film market. And I'll probably try a roll or two to see how it compares to my current B&W medium speed favourites.

I heard the rumours, but really wasn't sure what to make of them. Good to see something very positive from Fuji and positive for the film community.

dutchsteammachine · Jun 10, 2019

This is good news!

macfred · Jun 10, 2019

dutchsteammachine said:
This is good news!

Agreed!

John Galt · Jun 10, 2019

Awesome! I have only used Acros a few times but really liked it.

pentaxuser · Jun 10, 2019

So this is based on a known announcement from Fuji itself which presumably has been released in Japan but as yet nowhere else?. Maybe the likes of ericdan and other members in Japan can confirm this

It looks as if there has been some improvements, hence the use of the name Acros II but do we know if the major benefit of the former Acros, namely it outstanding reciprocity has been maintained?

As those who were following the thread on APX development times will know the subject then strayed into and covered the subject of who makes various films and the difficulty of obtaining this information from the suspected makers. I even used the name Acros II myself in my illustration of this murky world of who makes what

So are we sure this isn't Acros II made by, say, Ilford on behalf of Fuji? Who makes it may not matter of course as long as Acros II retains all the old benefits of Acros and incorporates the new one that are hinted at.

I now retain a very sceptical approach to the whole matter of "new films"

pentaxuser

Helios 1984 · Jun 10, 2019

Ratty will dance a jig for sure.

dutchsteammachine · Jun 10, 2019

pentaxuser said:
So this is based on a known announcement from Fuji itself which presumably has been released in Japan but as yet nowhere else?. Maybe the likes of ericdan and other members in Japan can confirm this

It looks as if there has been some improvements, hence the use of the name Acros II but do we know if the major benefit of the former Acros, namely it outstanding reciprocity has been maintained?

As those who were following the thread on APX development times will know the subject then strayed into and covered the subject of who makes various films and the difficulty of obtaining this information from the suspected makers. I even used the name Acros II myself in my illustration of this murky world of who makes what

So are we sure this isn't Acros II made by, say, Ilford on behalf of Fuji? Who makes it may not matter of course as long as Acros II retains all the old benefits of Acros and incorporates the new one that are hinted at.

I now retain a very sceptical approach to the whole matter of "new films"

pentaxuser

Yes it is an official anouncement from Fuji.

Why skeptical? Ektachrome has been a great release and is going to be released in 120

There is no way the Japanse Fuji would share their trade secrets, tooling and specialized coating machines required for their neopan technology with the Western Ilford.

Like pack film they would rather murder the knowledge and equipment than to share...

twelvetone12 · Jun 10, 2019

I think pentaxuser was referring to the fact that it could be another repackage of the "generic" Ilford 100iso film that supposedly is found in many repackages.

pentaxuser · Jun 10, 2019

dutchsteammachine said:
There is no way the Japanse Fuji would share their trade secrets, tooling and specialized coating machines required for their neopan technology with the European Ilford.

Like pack film they would rather murder the knowledge and equipment than to share...

You may be right but as producers of C41 colour films I'd have thought that Fuji had enough knowledge to make its own chromogenic B&W and yet by all accounts its Fuji C41 B&W is made for it by Ilford.

I await further confirmation that this is definitely made by Fuji which should be quite easily provided.

pentaxuser

dutchsteammachine · Jun 10, 2019

From fuji's release:

"Acros II properties:

Achieving the world's highest level of graininess as a black-and-white film with ISO 100 sensitivity by adopting our proprietary "Super Fine-Σ particle technology" (* 1) "

Ilford doesn't have this tech.

Fuji also stated in the release that they did r&d to find replacements for the previously hard to find raw marerials.

pentaxuser · Jun 10, 2019

dutchsteammachine said:
From fuji's release:

"Acros II properties:

Achieving the world's highest level of graininess as a black-and-white film with ISO 100 sensitivity by adopting our proprietary "Super Fine-Σ particle technology" (* 1) "

Ilford doesn't have this tech.

Fuji also stated in the release that they did r&d to find replacements for the previously hard to find raw marerials.

Thanks it all sounds good and I didn't realise that Super Fine -Sigma( no Greek keys on my keyboard ) particle technology was confined to Fuji.

twelvetone12 Yes I have had my faith dented in what I thought were clear no-rebadging policies recently. As they used to say in the old Hollywood Westerns the town is more "wide-open" that I realised. Even a Sheriff can be suspect

pentaxuser

Sal Santamaura · Jun 10, 2019

Let me know when it's offered in 4x5 QuickLoad packets.

1kgcoffee · Jun 10, 2019

Wonderful news, can we get Astia back too?

Tom Kershaw · Jun 10, 2019

The release of a new Fujifilm product is great news. What we need is a good range of top tier products, not odd and overpriced rebranding exercises. I've not used that much Acros more recently, however I did in the past, when I was first starting out and got excellent results for my then level of experience.

jim10219 · Jun 10, 2019

Richard Man said:
I wonder what the Fujifilm haters will say....

Acros II isn't as good as Acros I.

If it has different reciprocity characteristics, I'm sure we'll never hear the end of it.

Of course, I'll tell people it isn't as good as the old Acros before I even try it, because I bought a bunch of Acros right before they announced they were discontinuing it, and new supply will turn my expensive rare film into cheap expired film. Just kidding of course. Kind of. Nah, I'm kidding.

Andrew O'Neill · Jun 10, 2019

That's great news!! I know someone who used to be a member here who's name rhymes with tatty house, will be happy!
Here's hoping it has the same reciprocity characteristics!

removedacct1 · Jun 10, 2019

ACROS II has been created “by researching substitutes for raw materials that became difficult to obtain and radically reexamining the manufacturing process to match the new raw materials“.

I’m guessing they had to find an alternative for whale cartilage. (Or whatever the magic ingredient was)

Andrew O'Neill · Jun 10, 2019

paulbarden said:
ACROS II has been created “by researching substitutes for raw materials that became difficult to obtain and radically reexamining the manufacturing process to match the new raw materials“.

I’m guessing they had to find an alternative for whale cartilage. (Or whatever the magic ingredient was)

They still aggressively hunt whales.

Paul Howell · Jun 10, 2019

Looking forward to testing 120 and comparing to Tmax 100.

GLS · Jun 10, 2019

Very welcome news. I will now be less frugal about using my existing stocks of the original.

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