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Anyone know what is going on with Fuji Acros II? It's been in pretty reliable stock for the last few years until just recently. It is out of stock everywhere and the last few rolls I received were only a few months away from expiration. I'm hoping production resumes as this is my favorite film and I rely on it for long exposure low light photography :sad:
 

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Anyone know what is going on with Fuji Acros II? It's been in pretty reliable stock for the last few years until just recently. It is out of stock everywhere and the last few rolls I received were only a few months away from expiration. I'm hoping production resumes as this is my favorite film and I rely on it for long exposure low light photography :sad:

It is in stock in both eastern and western canada. both in 35mm & 120
 

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Not sure what format you shoot, but Austin Camera has both 35mm & 120 in stock & Blue Moon Camera has 35mm & 120 in stock too


 

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Speaking of Acros, does Fuji have plans to make it into sheet film?
 

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I would not expect Fuji to expand its line of film products.

Likely sadly yes. But this would be more about getting a new master roll, sheet film being typically put on a different base material. Harman has the stock, just need to coat a roll and slit it to size(s). I suppose demand would have to be proven to see any consideration given to such a move. It would be nice though.
 
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Anyone know what is going on with Fuji Acros II? It's been in pretty reliable stock for the last few years until just recently. It is out of stock everywhere and the last few rolls I received were only a few months away from expiration. I'm hoping production resumes as this is my favorite film and I rely on it for long exposure low light photography :sad:

T-max 100 has really good reciprocity traits as well. At 10 seconds the time becomes 13 seconds, and 30 seconds becomes 49 seconds with reciprocity. That’s really good - not as good as Acros, no - but a very manageable response. TMY is almost as good. The T-max films have the best reciprocity characteristics of any modern film after Acros.
I refused to buy Acros II when it came out because 1) what used to be one of the least expensive films suddenly became the most expensive, and 2) I couldn’t trust that Fuji wouldn’t pull the rug out from under us again at some point. Don’t be surprised that they’ve discontinued it - again.
 

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The Fujifilm Acros II is manufactured in the UK by Ilford. For this reason it is always available, at least in Europe - it does not suffer from the declining production in Japan...
 

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I refused to buy Acros II when it came out because 1) what used to be one of the least expensive films suddenly became the most expensive, and 2) I couldn’t trust that Fuji wouldn’t pull the rug out from under us again at some point. Don’t be surprised that they’ve discontinued it - again.
Yes, I didn't like Fuji's fancy Acros II comeback either. It was almost like they were saying, "Here is the new and vastly improved Acros II" and all of a sudden it's now worth twice as much. I was using a ton of the old Across because it was excellent film at a very nice price. The only time I buy Acros II now is when it's on a "close date" sell off. I never tried it in 4X5 when it was in production. Why? Cuz it was way, way to much money compared to even Tmax at the time. That was something I could never figure out, old Acros 120 roll film was so cheap and their 4X5 price was in outer space.
 
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The Fujifilm Acros II is manufactured in the UK by Ilford. For this reason it is always available, at least in Europe - it does not suffer from the declining production in Japan...
This we know. But I have the impression that Harman prioritizes Ilford (and Kentmere) products over all others they manufacture, so that when their production line is squeezed, all non-Harman products are sidelined until they have more time to produce for other brands.
Or perhaps there are raw materials used for Acros that have (yet again) become hard to source, creating an obstacle. There could be a number of reasons why Harman may have curtailed production of Acros II.

Regardless, I cannot invest in a film that has a track records of coming and going and may be rendered defunct at any moment, as Fuji is known for doing. TMX is almost as good in terms of reciprocity characteristics, and in other ways it's superior. It is certainly far less expensive: $8.00 per roll, versus $12 (or more) per roll for Acros II.
 
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This we know. But I have the impression that Harman prioritizes Ilford (and Kentmere) products over all others they manufacture, so that when their production line is squeezed, all non-Harman products are sidelined until they have more time to produce for other brands.
Or perhaps there are raw materials used for Acros that have (yet again) become hard to source, creating an obstacle. There could be a number of reasons why Harman may have curtailed production of Acros II.

Regardless, I cannot invest in a film that has a track records of coming and going and may be rendered defunct at any moment, as Fuji is known for doing. TMX is almost as good in terms of reciprocity characteristics, and in other ways it's superior. It is certainly far less expensive: $8.00 per roll, versus $12 (or more) per roll for Acros II.

Where are you finding TMAX for $8.00 per roll? Most places I see it at $10.00–$13.00 per roll.
 

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Generally there is no longer any price difference between TMX and Acros.
 

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Doubtful that Fujifilm will cut this wonderful film, in 4x5 again. Too bad they can't get Harman to do it...
Anyways, I'll be in Japan next week, so I'll check a few shops that I frequented, and see if they have any in stock. There is one guy I've known there for 35 years, who is pretty connected.
 

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40 Dollars for a 5 pack at B&H. 13 dollars a roll for the Fuji, and out of stock. I'm in the process of switching to TMX myself.
 
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B&H does have a 5-pack of TMAX 100 (120 film) for $39.99 as of right now.

Thanks. I only shoot 35mm so I haven't kept up with prices for 120. $40 for five rolls of 120 does seem like a good price. They have T-MAX 100 for $11.00 per roll in 35mm ($10.00 for short dated). I've been quite happy with FP4+ for my slower black-and-white film, and I can get that for $8.00 per roll, so I'll probably stick with that film unless the price increases dramatically (which it probably will due to the mad king's tariffs).
 
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Where are you finding TMAX for $8.00 per roll? Most places I see it at $10.00–$13.00 per roll.

B&H has it priced at $40 per pack of 5 rolls (120). Even at Blue Moon, which tends to price film slightly higher, it's $8.99 per roll. At Freestyle, it's $8.60 per roll.

If you're talking about 35mm film, that's a different matter. It's $10.99 per 35mm of TMX VS $12.99 for Acros. So TMX is still cheaper.
 

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The Fujifilm Acros II is manufactured in the UK by Ilford. For this reason it is always available, at least in Europe - it does not suffer from the declining production in Japan...

Any chance that Fuji will allow Harman to sell and then export it from GB with only a 10% tariff. Later and via the Cayman Islands they transfer the money to Japan of course? 😎

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Likely sadly yes. But this would be more about getting a new master roll, sheet film being typically put on a different base material. Harman has the stock, just need to coat a roll and slit it to size(s). I suppose demand would have to be proven to see any consideration given to such a move. It would be nice though.

Not that simple, coating a new base is a very time and labor intensive process, involving a lot of small scale testing, tweaking the emulsion or subbing layers, formulating an anti-curl layer to put in the back of the film, coating a master roll for testing on the production machine, fixing any coating issues that come up in full scale production, etc, etc. Almost certainly more money and time than Fuji wants to pay for.

This is why CineStill didn’t use sheet film base for 400D 4x5, it was much cheaper and easier to use an existing 35mm master roll (without an anti-curl coating on the back suitable for sheets, I might add…) and they have definitely gotten a ton of flack for it.
 

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Yes, I didn't like Fuji's fancy Acros II comeback either. It was almost like they were saying, "Here is the new and vastly improved Acros II" and all of a sudden it's now worth twice as much. I was using a ton of the old Across because it was excellent film at a very nice price. The only time I buy Acros II now is when it's on a "close date" sell off. I never tried it in 4X5 when it was in production. Why? Cuz it was way, way to much money compared to even Tmax at the time. That was something I could never figure out, old Acros 120 roll film was so cheap and their 4X5 price was in outer space.
I still have about 50 rolls of the old stuff. My wife hoarded it for me when she was over in Japan, just when the stuff was being discontinued. Got it cheap. She told me that they even had a few boxes of 4x5, and a box of 8x10. Still kicking myself for not saying yes, when she asked me if she could grab it as well... 🙄
 

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The Fujifilm Acros II is manufactured in the UK by Ilford. For this reason it is always available, at least in Europe - it does not suffer from the declining production in Japan...

Acros II is cheaper in Japan than EU. I sometimes speculate if it is shipped to Japan and then back to Europe.
 

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Any chance that Fuji will allow Harman to sell and then export it from GB with only a 10% tariff. Later and via the Cayman Islands they transfer the money to Japan of course? 😎

pentaxuser

Duty rates are based on the country of manufacture, not the country where an item is recently exported from.
 

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I still have about 50 rolls of the old stuff. My wife hoarded it for me when she was over in Japan, just when the stuff was being discontinued. Got it cheap. She told me that they even had a few boxes of 4x5, and a box of 8x10. Still kicking myself for not saying yes, when she asked me if she could grab it as well... 🙄
Fuji Acros sheet film would have been a great find. Like I said, I've never used it, but the low reciprocity factor alone would have been worth it in sheet film. The one thing I always liked about Acros was the rendering of the sky. Almost like a built in light yellow filter.
 
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