Fuji 160NS

RattyMouse · Sep 7, 2016

I'm back in China for the week, having returned almost 1 year to the day since I moved out of Shanghai and back to the US. My first day back I went to the camera mall that I haunted so many years while living here. I checked out the film stores that used to supply me and found that they had ENORMOUS amounts of Fuji 160NS in 120 size. Wow.....that was gone last year and I was unable to get any when I wanted to shoot color. I thought it was gone for good. Now I find it is very readily available. It makes sense for Fuji to supply both low speed and high speed color film in 120 size. They should do that for monochrome too but I guess that is beyond their abilities.

I wish I brought more money with me, I'd bring home many many boxes of 160NS! I love that film. Such beautiful colors.

A crying shame that Fujifilm can't be bothered to sell such a wonderful film in the US.

On another note, I wanted to buy some Ilford Delta 3200 and found that EVERY single box of this film in 3 film stores was heavily expired. Hundreds of boxes, all expired in early 2015 or 2014. That's strange. I used to buy that film all the time without needing to purchased expired film. Same price too, no discount for being expired!

benjiboy · Sep 7, 2016

Amazon.com are selling it in the U.S https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Fujicolor-Professional-Negative-162455/dp/B003WW2ZG0

Poisson Du Jour · Sep 7, 2016

RattyMouse said:
On another note, I wanted to buy some Ilford Delta 3200 and found that EVERY single box of this film in 3 film stores was heavily expired. Hundreds of boxes, all expired in early 2015 or 2014. That's strange. I used to buy that film all the time without needing to purchased expired film. Same price too, no discount for being expired!

That is not heavily expired. In April this year I exposed two rolls of P3200 in 6x7 and pinhole 6x6. Both rolls expired in November 2011, and were perfect when processed.
You only need to be concerned if that film is expired up to a decade, when a significant loss of speed will be noticeable.

RattyMouse · Sep 8, 2016

Poisson Du Jour said:
That is not heavily expired. In April this year I exposed two rolls of P3200 in 6x7 and pinhole 6x6. Both rolls expired in November 2011, and were perfect when processed.
You only need to be concerned if that film is expired up to a decade, when a significant loss of speed will be noticeable.

Simon Galley stated many times here that Delta3200 is much more likely to have problems when expired than other films.

williaty · Sep 8, 2016

Is the 160NS the new name for the version of NPC they were selling around 2000-2003?

Poisson Du Jour · Sep 8, 2016

RattyMouse said:
Simon Galley stated many times here that Delta3200 is much more likely to have problems when expired than other films.

Did he. Well, it wasn't borne out in two rolls exposed at EI 12,500. And if I am correct, one roll remains of the 2011 batch that I will cart along with me on holidays next week and run through the pinhole.

TheToadMen · Sep 8, 2016

williaty said:
Is the 160NS the new name for the version of NPC they were selling around 2000-2003?

Well, not exactly. Fuji had NPC160, NPH400, NPZ800 and later (about 2004?) introduced NPS160 (for portrait, etc.).
The NPH400 was "replaced" with PRO 400H and NPS160 was "replaced" with PRO 160S. NPC160 became PRO 160C and NPZ800 became PRO 800Z. All these four new films were redesigned films and incorporated Fuji's 4th cyan layer for improved colour rendition. I believe the 800Z was later discontinued and the 160C and 160S were both replaced by (and merged into?) PRO 160NS.

At the moment the only PRO films still in production are PRO 400H and PRO 160NS, but not in all formats anymore.

I still have a nice stash expired NPC160 and NPH400 film from 2004-2005, that still gives me very good negatives and fine colours. I have only a few rolls NPS160 left.

BTW: From an email from Fuji in 2006:
"NPH 400/NPZ 800 was not discontinued, however the name changed to Pro 400 H/800 Z. Pro 400 H/800 Z uses the same emulsion as NPH/NPZ so you can expect the same great results."

And from the original datasheet:
"FUJICOLOR NPS 160 PROFESSIONAL [NPS] is a portrait-dedicated daylight-type short exposure professional color negative film with an ISO speed rating of 160 designed for shutter speeds of 1/8 second or faster."

RattyMouse · Sep 8, 2016

benjiboy said:
Amazon.com are selling it in the U.S https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Fujicolor-Professional-Negative-162455/dp/B003WW2ZG0

Thank you. That's not too bad of a price. I'll have to get a few boxes.

benjiboy · Sep 8, 2016

williaty said:
Is the 160NS the new name for the version of NPC they were selling around 2000-2003?

Yes.

John_Nikon_F · Sep 8, 2016

I kinda miss Pro 160C. Velvia colors in C-41... It's also a shame that Pro 160NS isn't being offered in 35mm. But, oh well.

-J

Christiaan Phleger · Sep 11, 2016

Please do tell how you found Kodak P3200 in 120 I never thought that was made

Prest_400 · Sep 11, 2016

I have a 220 propack of 160NS on my way from HK. It was still sold until very recently (discontinued) and still stocked in Japan (Yodobashi at 4k+ Yen, discounted!) at 2x120 price and not more, such as kodak, back when they had 220. Fuji's Policy on some products is rather curious. You had 160NS on 220 but no 35mm for years! I recall there were 160C and 160S and they discontinued the former, renaming the later as 160NS.

A bit OT, but given the popularity of 400H in the wedding market, it's interesting to see 160NS has been the the last 220 standing (02/18 last batch).

Let's see when this 220 arrives home. Nice format for travel, specially with a 6x9. That goes into the freezer awaiting a long trip. In Spain and my situation, Portra is more available and lower priced, so I had just a few rolls of it. Anyways, I tend to shoot Portra 400 in 120.

160NS 120 is available in EU and Asia as far I see.

perkeleellinen · Sep 14, 2016

TheToadMen said:
All these four new films were redesigned films and incorporated Fuji's 4th cyan layer for improved colour rendition.

I just want to say that all four Pro films (C,S,H,Z) were also redesigned to print on the same filter pack. When they were all in production it was fantastic from a colour darkroom perspective as you could switch between the films so easily. Sad that only 400H is available now in 35mm.

B.S.Kumar · Oct 11, 2016

All the 160NS you want: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Thanks,
Kumar

Fuji 160NS

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