Freestyle Legacy Pro 100 = Acros 100?

Poohblah · Jan 14, 2009

Did anybody ever come to a conclusion about whether FS's new Legacy Pro 100 is Acros 100 or Neopan SS? I ask because I absolutely love Acros 100 in 120 format, but I'm hoping I could get some in 35mm at the super cheap FS prices to try out...

Alex Bishop-Thorpe · Jan 14, 2009

We had a (there was a url link here which no longer exists), and most people seem to be leaning towards Acros. We'll likely know when we get the development data in a week or two, the film's scheduled to be available from the 20th I think.

jim appleyard · Jan 14, 2009

Yeah, we're all going to have to buy some, load up the cameras and go out and shoot globs of it. We'll then have to go into our darkrooms, dev it and then make prints. I can't think of a bigger waste of my day!

Thomas Bertilsson · Jan 14, 2009

There is a mile of difference between Neopan SS and Neopan Acros, as far as granularity goes. Neopan SS has much more grain. Two rolls tested would tell you immediately.

- Thomas

Lee L · Jan 14, 2009

Poohblah said:
Did anybody ever come to a conclusion about whether FS's new Legacy Pro 100 is Acros 100 or Neopan SS?

Some have concluded that it's Acros in other threads. However it hasn't shipped yet and there are no development times, so the hard evidence is spotty.

Actually I think that Neopan SS is so rare and unknown in the US that people don't know it's a possible candidate for the Legacy film, so that and a strong desire for inexpensive Acros are at play.

Lee

Robert Hall · Jan 14, 2009

One good test is that Acros has great reciprocity. Exposures out to 2 minutes need no adjustment. This would be a good test as well.

Poohblah · Jan 14, 2009

Needless to say, I'm really hoping it's Acros. I'm tired of paying $5/roll for my favorite films.

Robert Hall · Jan 14, 2009

If they are your favorite film, maybe there is good reason they are $5 a roll?

Jürgen · Jan 14, 2009

The developing times have been posted already at the Freestyle site. The dev times for both films in D76 1:1 are the same as acros and neopan 400.

Jurgen

Lee L · Jan 14, 2009

Must have been posted today. I checked before I posted this morning. Here's a readable comparison. No times are posted for Neopan SS on the Freestyle chart.

Lee

jim appleyard · Jan 14, 2009

I like Neopan 400. When I run out of the APX 400 and Arista Premium that I've stockpiled in my freezer (because I thought the end of the film world was near) I'll grab some legacy 400.

Poohblah · Jan 14, 2009

Very nice!!! A half price Acros is always welcome!

Thomas Bertilsson · Jan 15, 2009

Any idea if they'll push these in 120 format too? If so, I'll be in heaven with the disguised Neopan 400.

- Thomas

arealitystudios · Jan 15, 2009

Thomas Bertilsson said:
Any idea if they'll push these in 120 format too? If so, I'll be in heaven with the disguised Neopan 400.

- Thomas

you and me both! neopan 400 is my primary 400 speed film and i shoot mostly medium format. I'd like to see it available in a variety of sizes in much the same way Arista.edu Ultra is but we'll just have to see.

For now I'll just be happy I can get film of any size at such a discount.

Davor K · Mar 21, 2009

LEGACY PRO

On Foto Riegler web site Dead Link Removed we can see that FUJI NEOPAN 100 ACROSS = LEGACY PRO 100 and FUJI NEOPAN 400 = LEGACY PRO 400. Is it really thrue ? In case YES, why FUJI sells own famous films under different names and lower prices ! Maybe, FUJI sells rest stocks ?! Does it mean that production of that films in future are questionable ?

Davor

Poohblah · Mar 21, 2009

Davor K said:
On Foto Riegler web site Dead Link Removed we can see that FUJI NEOPAN 100 ACROSS = LEGACY PRO 100 and FUJI NEOPAN 400 = LEGACY PRO 400. Is it really thrue ? In case YES, why FUJI sells own famous films under different names and lower prices ! Maybe, FUJI sells rest stocks ?! Does it mean that production of that films in future are questionable ?

Davor

No. Fuji sells film stock to another company at a cheaper price because Fuji doesn't have to pay to package and distribute that film. Freestyle uses a cheaper packaging and distributing model than Fuji, and can also afford to sell the film at a cheaper price.

Same thing happens with Kodak (Arista Premium) and Foma (Arista EDU.Ultra).

Davor K · Mar 21, 2009

Very reasonable answer. The most important thing is that we have high quality b&w films. Package with famous brand is not important.
Davor

sanking · Mar 21, 2009

I buy 120 Acros for about $3 a roll from B&H.

Sandy King

Robert Hall said:
If they are your favorite film, maybe there is good reason they are $5 a roll?

enomooshiki · Oct 4, 2009

I am a beginner in film developing. I picked up a roll of legacy pro 100 but I haven't used it because I couldn't find a developing time for Marathon 9:1 (which my school uses) Is there a way to find out? obviously all the guide lines I found just had '-' .

Lee L · Oct 4, 2009

enomooshiki said:
I am a beginner in film developing. I picked up a roll of legacy pro 100 but I haven't used it because I couldn't find a developing time for Marathon 9:1 (which my school uses) Is there a way to find out? obviously all the guide lines I found just had '-' .

Found this with google:
http://www.21gradi.it/Public/FreestyleFilmChart2004.pdf

Marathon 1:9 68F/20C Fuji Acros 5 1/4 minutes

Lee

marcmarc · Oct 4, 2009

This is why I love Freestyle so much. Along with the Arista Premium films it's nice to have choices with films when one is on a budget (and really, aren't most of us these days?) along with all the other traditional items they stock. Definitely one of the best reasons to live in LA is because one can walk into their store. I do at least once a week it seems. Now then one quick question - I seem to recall the 100 Across is a T-grained film. True?

Leighgion · Oct 4, 2009

From what I understand, Acros is not a T-grained film.

clayne · Oct 5, 2009

It's a modern technology grained film. It may not be tabular grain exactly, but it's definitely not traditional (SS100).

Silverhead · Oct 5, 2009

Acros/LegacyPro is not a T-grained film in the same sense that T-Max is, but it does look a lot like one. Very tight grain, very sharp, and a good tonal range. Definitely not in the Plus-X or FP4 vein.

clayne · Oct 5, 2009

First page of the datasheet: http://www.fujifilmusa.com/shared/bin/NeopanAcros100.pdf

The Fuji version is called Sigma Grain. It's a T-grain type film.

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