Free 4X5 Camera!

raucousimages · Aug 29, 2008

1. You must attend the free workshop in Salt Lake at Wasatch Photographic. Sat. Sept, 6th 10 AM to 4PM.

2. You must be new to Large Format to enter. No old LF pros looking to collect another camera. We want to give newbie a chance.

eddie gunks · Aug 29, 2008

great idea. good luck newbies!

TheDreadPirateRobins · Aug 29, 2008

Doh! I am new to LF, as in I have no camera and one film holder so far, and a partially completed pinhole 4x5 camera, but I am nowhere near Salt Lake City next weekend.

Good luck to all new LFers who attend the workshop!

evilhomer78 · Aug 29, 2008

WOW, now there is even more incentive to attend although I was planning on attending anyway.

Photo Engineer · Aug 29, 2008

Well, I've had a Calumet Cadet with case and some holders (no lens but with precut lensboard) for a freebie + shipping for APUG to use as either a giveaway in a contest or as a rotating camera for experimentation by potential newbies. This offer started over 2 years ago and I still have had no takers. The offer is still on the table.

PE

papagene · Aug 29, 2008

The Cadet is a good learning LF camera. I have one... I suppose I will always be learning.
This is a good offer... someone should jump on it.

gene

TheDreadPirateRobins · Aug 29, 2008

I'd pay shipping for a Cadet. I have been considering building by own view camera since I don't have much money to throw at one right now. I live near a camera shop with a good selection of used lenses and I am sure they could fix me up with something to start on.

Photo Engineer · Aug 29, 2008

The deal with APUG about 2 years ago was:

1. Use it for circulation as a camera for people to test, experiment with and get an interest going in LF.

2. Use it to give to a deserving newbie as a gift for interest in LF.

3. If no answer, sell it for $100 + shipping

4. If none of the above, give it to someone who is a deserving APUG member.

This has been hanging fire for over 2 years. The APUG council should give me the answer before I go on. Even I had forgotten about it. My bad.

PE

Ray Rogers · Aug 30, 2008

Photo Engineer said:
Even I had forgotten about it. My bad.

PE

I have never seen one.
Can it be made to take glass plates?

Ray

Vaughn · Aug 30, 2008

Or if you want to donate it to the Humboldt State University Art Dept, I'll check it out to students during the school year and make it available for a student to check out over the summers (which we do not do with our other 4x5's (3 old Calumet rail cameras, 2 Horseman Woodfields, a beat-up Tachihara, a couple Crown Graphics and a Super Graphic.)

I have an extra lens...but since we do have other 4x5's perhaps it should go to a more needy program/person.

What I am waiting to fall out of the sky and on top of our program is an old 8x10 and a few holders!

Vaughn

Photo Engineer · Aug 30, 2008

Ray;

If you have a glass plate holder it can take glass plates. It is an ordinary 4x5 camera.

Vaughn;

Yes, it could go to the University, but first dibs goes to APUG, then to and APUG member and you certainly qualify. I just have to get Sean & company to say ok.

PE

Ray Rogers · Aug 30, 2008

Photo Engineer said:
Ray;

If you have a glass plate holder it can take glass plates. It is an ordinary 4x5 camera.

PE

I was wondering, do most 4x5 cameras take a standard plate holder, or do they each require a dedicated holder.

Photo Engineer · Aug 30, 2008

I really have not explored that much Ray. I have about 6 glass plate holders and they fit all of my 4x5 cameras. They are pretty beat though and took a lot of work to get into usable shape. They are real antiques.

I understand that some do not fit, and usually if a photo is attached to one on sale, you can clearly see the odd shape or some feature that appears to be a "bad fit" for normal 4x5 functions. The ones I have all look like polished wood 4x5 film holders. I picked and chose when I bought these though. Two were given to me by a friend to get me started.

PE

Ole · Aug 30, 2008

Ray Rogers said:
I have never seen one.
Can it be made to take glass plates?

Ray

Any 4x5" camera can be used to take glass plates. All you need is a glass plate holder, which can be either a Linhof Universal Film&Plate holder ("mit Auswerfer"), which unfortunately won't take the thick Slavich plates, or a single-plate holder with adapter. Linhof made some of those too, and I happen to have one right here for 9x12cm plates in any camera with an international back.

Mustafa Umut Sarac · Aug 30, 2008

Hey PE..!! ,

I want to have your camera.
I have a ww2 japanese torture camp canon 1000 f.
I would like to have your camera.

Best ,
umut

Ray Rogers · Aug 30, 2008

Mustafa Umut Sarac said:
Hey PE..!! ,

I want to have your camera.
I have a ww2 japanese torture camp canon 1000 f.
I would like to have your camera.

Best ,
umut

Sorry, I am not familiar with that item.
Where does the torture part fit in here?

Was it the price?

Ray Rogers · Aug 30, 2008

Ole said:
Any 4x5" camera can be used to take glass plates. All you need is a glass plate holder, which can be either a Linhof Universal Film&Plate holder ("mit Auswerfer"), which unfortunately won't take the thick Slavich plates, or a single-plate holder with adapter. Linhof made some of those too, and I happen to have one right here for 9x12cm plates in any camera with an international back.

Lucky Ole!

Tell me, (since the option to the Universal Film&Plate holder is a single-plate holder with adapter,) would it be correct to assume the Universal Film&Plate holder held 2 plates like current film holders do?

How thick are Slavich plates ?

So the choice is 2 thinner plates per holder or only one plate, but either thickness?

Are good, clean ones, easy to come by?

Ray

Ray Rogers · Aug 30, 2008

Photo Engineer said:
Two were given to me by a friend to get me started.

PE

Friendship Makes a Happy World!

Photo Engineer · Aug 30, 2008

Mustafa;

For me to dispose of the camera, please see my previous posts. Thanks.

Ray;

My holders take standard window glass thickness, 2 plates/holder. I have posted some of my plate work here. I coat on both plate and film and shoot the ISO 40 emulsion on either. Adhesion is quite good, but you must use a mixed hardener of aldehyde + chrome alum, chrome alum alone or use a chrome alum hardener for good adhesion to glass.

PE

Laurent · Aug 30, 2008

Don't go this way !!

TheDreadPirateRobins said:
I'd pay shipping for a Cadet. I have been considering building by own view camera since I don't have much money to throw at one right now. I live near a camera shop with a good selection of used lenses and I am sure they could fix me up with something to start on.

Don't try to save by building your own camera, or make a very crude (i.e. no movements) one. I started this way, really enjoyed building the camera but would have actually saved money by buying a used Cambo or whatever would have been available.

Vaughn · Sep 2, 2008

Photo Engineer said:
Vaughn;

Yes, it could go to the University, but first dibs goes to APUG, then to and APUG member and you certainly qualify. I just have to get Sean & company to say ok.

PE

Sounds good to me! As long as it gets used!

vaughn

Ian Grant · Sep 2, 2008

Ray Rogers said:
I have never seen one.
Can it be made to take glass plates?

Ray

I have a Cadet, it's a cheap but extremely functional & capable 5x4 camera, ideal as a starter camera or as a backup

If you have standard international fit 5x4 glass plate holders (ie same dimensions as modern film holders) they'll fit with no problems.

Ian

JBrunner · Sep 2, 2008

raucousimages said:
1. You must attend the free workshop in Salt Lake at Wasatch Photographic. Sat. Sept, 6th 10 AM to 4PM.

2. You must be new to Large Format to enter. No old LF pros looking to collect another camera. We want to give newbie a chance.

So I'm not eligible?

raucousimages · Sep 2, 2008

You need more cameras as little as I do. BTW Wasatch is providing doughnuts for saturday.

JBrunner · Sep 2, 2008

raucousimages said:
You need more cameras as little as I do. BTW Wasatch is providing doughnuts for saturday.

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