Frame #35

Cholentpot · Oct 18, 2017

Big problem I have these days.

You see, I'd like to take the camera out at times but I look at the frame counter/turn it on and I see the dreaded frame #35 (or 34). It happens time and time again. The rolls been lazing around in the camera for weeks and I'd like to load up another camera but I have to finish THIS roll. But if I take this camera out I don't know how many frames I have left! 1? 3? maybe a lucky 5? I don't want to reload this camera and I don't want to take a second body with me.

So now I have 8 cameras with 98% rolls shot. I think I should plan a trip and stick all these cameras in a shopping bag and use up each roll.

MattKing · Oct 18, 2017

35 exposures fit really well on the 7 x 35 Printfile pages.
And 1/36 of the price of even an expensive roll of film isn't itself very much money.
And if you take a shot of something that shows what day it is, you will have a built in reference to the film's date.
How about a selfy ?

BrianShaw · Oct 18, 2017

I don’t sweat the cost or loss of a free frames of film. I’d rather waste them than leave the film in the camera.

twelvetone12 · Oct 18, 2017

I always do my "experimental photos" on the last frames to finish a roll. Some times they end up being the best images on the roll!

Eric Rose · Oct 18, 2017

I'm with Brian on this one.

faberryman · Oct 18, 2017

Bite the bullet. Unload and process the film in your eight cameras, and begin again. It's either that or buy a new camera. Or is that the advice you are looking for?

Cholentpot · Oct 18, 2017

twelvetone12 said:
I always do my "experimental photos" on the last frames to finish a roll. Some times they end up being the best images on the roll!

Always end up with a picture of the cat, or dog, or a flower, or clouds, or the car.

Cholentpot · Oct 18, 2017

MattKing said:
35 exposures fit really well on the 7 x 35 Printfile pages.
And 1/36 of the price of even an expensive roll of film isn't itself very much money.
And if you take a shot of something that shows what day it is, you will have a built in reference to the film's date.
How about a selfy ?

I use the 6 print file. That's what my scanner carrier holds.

I started this thread in humor but that's a really good idea. A date reference, maybe shoot a newspaper spread...if I could find a newspaper.

twelvetone12 · Oct 18, 2017

I love cat photos the 37th frame (the one that ends lonely in the 6 print file) is always reserved to the cat.

MattKing · Oct 18, 2017

Cholentpot said:
A date reference, maybe shoot a newspaper spread...if I could find a newspaper.

Just shoot a piece of paper, computer screen or smartphone screen with the date "writ large".

winger · Oct 18, 2017

twelvetone12 said:
I always do my "experimental photos" on the last frames to finish a roll. Some times they end up being the best images on the roll!

+1

Gerald C Koch · Oct 18, 2017

BrianShaw said:
I don’t sweat the cost or loss of a free frames of film. I’d rather waste them than leave the film in the camera.

+1

Trying to get that 37th frame can result in the film tearing, coming lose from the cassette or jamming the wind mechanism.

Poisson Du Jour · Oct 18, 2017

On the odd, now-and-then occasion I take 35mm for a work-out, I have rewound and processed the film long before frame 35. Most commonly 12 or 24. Just enough to get the job done good and proper, no less and no more.

Film is cheap and a few sacrificed blank frames do not concern me at all.

E. von Hoegh · Oct 18, 2017

Gerald C Koch said:
+1

Trying to get that 37th frame can result in the film tearing, coming lose from the cassette or jamming the wind mechanism.

Since I started using Kiev 4s, then a Contax II, trying for that last frame just about guarantees shredding that section of film - and then it won't rewind sometimes.

Cholentpot · Oct 18, 2017

MattKing said:
Just shoot a piece of paper, computer screen or smartphone screen with the date "writ large".

Where's the fun in that?

Gerald C Koch said:
+1

Trying to get that 37th frame can result in the film tearing, coming lose from the cassette or jamming the wind mechanism.

I generally bulk load, this is a real problem with quite a few cameras for me.

Poisson Du Jour said:
On the odd, now-and-then occasion I take 35mm for a work-out, I have rewound and processed the film long before frame 35. Most commonly 12 or 24. Just enough to get the job done good and proper, no less and no more.

Film is cheap and a few sacrificed blank frames do not concern me at all.

No! It's like getting the last of the pudding out of a cup! To the ends of the earth! Waste of silver...

twelvetone12 said:
I love cat photos the 37th frame (the one that ends lonely in the 6 print file) is always reserved to the cat.

My cat photos are very avant-garde, the cat won't hold still.

Logan Becker · Oct 18, 2017

I buy 35mm in bulk so I'm already saving a decent amount of money with that route. If I find there's only one frame left I simply go ahead and process. If you want a camera that can shoot without worrying about roll film... LF

Sirius Glass · Oct 18, 2017

Options:

Send all the cameras to me.
Carry a roll of film and reload the camera.

wiltw · Oct 18, 2017

A roll of 36 exp color film might be $6.00...waste a frame and it 'costs' you $0.17
To process a roll of 36 exp color slide film might cost $9.00...waste a frame and it 'costs' you $0.25
To process a roll of 36 exp color neg film might cost $5.00...waste a frame and it 'costs' you $0.14
One fewer color prints costs you nothing!

So on average you waste $0.28 per roll by ignoring the extra leftover shots on a roll...do this ten times and you have a Starbucks cup of ordinary coffee (not even an expresso)

Chan Tran · Oct 18, 2017

Besides from wasting a frame or two isn't much money I wonder why you don't want to change film while going out shooting? Lots of time I expect to use more than 1 rolls of film when I went out.

Cholentpot · Oct 18, 2017

Sirius Glass said:
Options:

Send all the cameras to me.

Carry a roll of film and reload the camera.

Chan Tran said:
Besides from wasting a frame or two isn't much money I wonder why you don't want to change film while going out shooting? Lots of time I expect to use more than 1 rolls of film when I went out.

Can't reload. Need to get the next camera in rotation.

Ok, you'll click and send back?

wiltw said:
A roll of 36 exp color film might be $6.00...waste a frame and it 'costs' you $0.17
To process a roll of 36 exp color slide film might cost $9.00...waste a frame and it 'costs' you $0.25
To process a roll of 36 exp color neg film might cost $5.00...waste a frame and it 'costs' you $0.14
One fewer color prints costs you nothing!

So on average you waste $0.28 per roll by ignoring the extra leftover shots on a roll...do this ten times and you have a Starbucks cup of ordinary coffee (not even an expresso)

it's not the cost! it's the principle of the matter!

Must squeeze every drop I can out of this hobby. Maybe that's the hobby for me, hmm.

BrianShaw · Oct 18, 2017

Hey... enjoy yourself.

I have great respect for frugal behavior. I tend to be frugal in many things too.

Cholentpot · Oct 18, 2017

BrianShaw said:
Hey... enjoy yourself.

This guy gets it.

You really think I have eight cameras loaded with one frame left? I only have four loaded with one frame left.

Poisson Du Jour · Oct 18, 2017

wiltw said:
So on average you waste $0.28 per roll by ignoring the extra leftover shots on a roll...do this ten times and you have a Starbucks cup of ordinary coffee (not even an expresso)

Starbucks? Not hip enough.
The calculated cost will go nowhere near covering the cost of a deconstructed coffee, which is $8.60.
And what film are you referring to? Not Velvia ($28/ 36 exp. roll, + processing cost $8.60... + travel costs... tack on lunch too, plus a bit more for GAS if it comes along). Aye now, recalculate.

Cholentpot said:
Must squeeze every drop I can out of this hobby. Maybe that's the hobby for me, hmm.

If that holds true, ditch 35mm and move up to medium format. MF will teach you frame-by-frame discipline, and make every frame count. 35mm has for decades been quite wasteful, since at least the demise of 12 and 24 exposures.

Sirius Glass · Oct 18, 2017

Sirius Glass said:
Options:

Send all the cameras to me.

Carry a roll of film and reload the camera.

Cholentpot said:
Can't reload. Need to get the next camera in rotation.

Ok, you'll click and send back?

I will send it back after I have thoroughly tested each one out over a number of decades.

Cholentpot · Oct 18, 2017

Poisson Du Jour said:
Starbucks? Not hip enough.
The calculated cost will go nowhere near covering the cost of a deconstructed coffee, which is $8.60.
And what film are you referring to? Not Velvia ($28/ 36 exp. roll, + processing cost $8.60... + travel costs... tack on lunch too, plus a bit more for GAS if it comes along). Aye now, recalculate.

If that holds true, ditch 35mm and move up to medium format. MF will teach you frame-by-frame discipline, and make every frame count. 35mm has for decades been quite wasteful, since at least the demise of 12 and 24 exposures.

Buddy boy...I got 2 frames left in my M645 on a roll of Ektar 100 that's been in there since last November, I've taken it far and wide and have still not found a couple of worthy frames. It's my time capsule of debate now.

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