Fomapan 400 D76 1+1 or 1+3

UIMP · Apr 15, 2014

So, I want to develop Foma 400 film in D76 1+1. In Internet I found many (too many) times. Can someone tell me, what time is good, and how I must agitate?

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Yesterday, I developed F400 in Pyro. It didn't works ;(

Xmas · Apr 15, 2014

the manufacturer only gives times for 1+0.

http://www.foma.cz/en/catalogue-fomapan-400-action-detail-272

Rick A · Apr 15, 2014

http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.php?Film=Fomapan+400&Developer=D-76&mdc=Search&TempUnits=C

UIMP · Apr 15, 2014

Xmas - I know. But, has someone proven time for 1+1?

Rick - Do you think, that 10 minutes isn't too short time?

ic-racer · Apr 15, 2014

Why dilute the D76? The capacity is the same. Do you have a massive tank; the capacity is one 35mm film in 500ml when diluted 1:1.

UIMP · Apr 15, 2014

Because I want to try diluted D-76. And, when I used stock for many times (but no more, than 10), last films were not the same, as the 1st, or 2nd film, developed into this developer.
Maybe, I develope this film id D-76 1+3?

Roger Cole · Apr 15, 2014

Freestyle has a data sheet that gives times for 1+1:

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/static/pdf/product_pdfs/foma/Fomapan_400.pdf

12-13 minutes at 68F/20C. I reduce this by 10-15% and shoot it at 200. Works well.

Rick A · Apr 15, 2014

The MDC calls for 10-13 minutes, this is ball park. I find that when I shoot sheet film, and my scene is contrasty, I develope for the 10 minutes, and more if the scene is flat. I can't spak to your shooting methods and how you meter any scenes. These are starting points, and you need to experiment to obtain your own development times.

NB23 · Apr 15, 2014

ic-racer said:
Why dilute the D76? The capacity is the same. Do you have a massive tank; the capacity is one 35mm film in 500ml when diluted 1:1.

Exact.

I dilute it for 4x5 sheets since i never hit the capacity because if how the sheet occupy space.
Otherwise it's always 1:0

cliveh · Apr 15, 2014

I would suggest 13 minutes at 20C/68F for D76 at 1:1.

Roger Cole · Apr 15, 2014

Dilute 1+1 D76 has a distinctly different look than full strength. Further, I don't get to process nearly often enough to use replenishment so I prefer to use developers one shot which makes 1+1 exactly half the cost of full strength, for results that I personally prefer anyway (slightly more apparent grain but slightly better sharpness.) I don't care for 1+3 as "the virtues of dilution are not infinite" as I read back in Pop Photo in the 70s or early 80s, but some people do.

baachitraka · Apr 16, 2014

Try, either 11 mins or 13 mins with two rolls shot on same lighting conditions. But you may need to sacrifice the speed in any case.

Xmas · Apr 16, 2014

UIMP said:
Because I want to try diluted D-76. And, when I used stock for many times (but no more, than 10), last films were not the same, as the 1st, or 2nd film, developed into this developer.
Maybe, I develope this film id D-76 1+3?

well using stock the 2nd film is developed for 10% longer third 20% than first...

if you don't keep it to long the tenth should be the same as first assuming a litre package, but I make up 2l and get 20 off 135.

But since the stock needs 10 mins for 0.8 then 1+1 will be 15-18 mins for 0.8 but what contrast or speed or fog do you want.

Formas datasheet is close to what I get for ISO.

baachitraka · Apr 16, 2014

Please also consider that Foma films can build contrast slightly faster than other films compared. So, you may need to adjust the times accordingly.

RalphLambrecht · Apr 16, 2014

Rick A said:
The MDC calls for 10-13 minutes, this is ball park. I find that when I shoot sheet film, and my scene is contrasty, I develope for the 10 minutes, and more if the scene is flat. I can't spak to your shooting methods and how you meter any scenes. These are starting points, and you need to experiment to obtain your own development times.

how about a proper film test instead of trial and error or any 3rd party data?

baachitraka · Apr 18, 2014

Blesses if I have one commercial facility for testing in Germany...

TheToadMen · Apr 18, 2014

baachitraka said:
Blesses if I have one commercial facility for testing in Germany if not at-least one in Europe.

If you mean you're looking for a good, professional lab, that still knows what they are doing: I recently started using ColorUtrecht recently in Utrecht, Holland. They developed several films for me (B&W in DD-X and color in C-41) and I was amazed by the beautiful negatives. They also developed a film of Agfa Scala for me as a negative film instead of slide film (as requested). Also beautiful negatives. You can send & receive films by mail (I do).

If you specify the exact way you want the films to be developed, I'm sure they'll let you know what they can do for you. And paying within Europe is easy now with IBAN.

Their site: http://www.colorutrecht.nl (in Dutch, but they'll speak German or English).
You can email them at: info@colorutrecht.nl
Telephone: 0031-30-2313107

baachitraka · Apr 18, 2014

I am looking for film testing facility in Europe like one available through view camera store.

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