About junk
Hi Roger,
sorry to say so, but as others too here I could not discover anything in this crap+junk post which could let me assume that it was meant ironic. And my expectations are the other way round: If this was meant really ironic the funny Rolleijoe should better say it now.
No matter if Yashica, Minolta, Mamiya or even Ricoh and Meopta, the latters at least on par with the Triotars, none of them is junk.
A Yashinon came quite close to the Tessar in one of these ridiculous test I've seen in the web. And tho I've met some Gagas who claim to see a "clear difference" on the negs with a 25X loupe (!!) I bet none of these "experts" can keep them apart with an identic print 40X40cm. Not to speak of the Mamiya lenses. And the Zeiss Planars on the other side seem to be not free of compromises, as I was told by folks in whose knowledge I trust.
Of course the build quality of a Mat124 is not like a Flex and as a PJ in the 60s, making my living with such a camera, I would have taken the Flex too.
More to FEEL save than because of a proven higher reliability.
But I am just a bloody amateur who babies his stuff and so I was glad to get a new Mat124 1986 for about $250,- when the Flex was (for me in those days) outta sight already somewhere at $2500,- AFAIK
About build quality a story, the difference between assumed and proven :
When I got it some months first, I dropped the Mat on concrete, I had pulled it out of the car boot together with a woolen blanket, a two meter high and 5 meter long curve in the air, and BANGG!! it landed.
I got so extremely upset that , out of control, I fired it on the concrete a second time to destroy it completely. My wife thought about calling the docs. The lens board was bended, the lens was out of everything, pressed into the board.
At home my wife suggested to let the Yashica repair, and after I had cooled my heels I sent it to Kyocera in Hamburg, to let it repair and to sell it then.
Came back completely rebuilt and perfectly adjusted for $ 65,- . It had a filter mounted when it hit the concrete and so the filter had(still has) a little ding, not the lensbarrel tho. Some test shots told me the lens was still perfect, no decentering or whatever, focus drive perfect too, and so I decided to keep it. Works perfect up til today, in June I'll tak it to Paris, on the tracks of Doisneau. ;-)
No, the film transport does not sound like a Flex, so what ? But it's a brick anyway. And I do not dare to think about what the Flex repair had costed.
I think I would have died by a stroke if that all would have had happened to me with a 3 months old Rolleiflex 2,8
Best regards to the southwest of France !
Bertram
Roger Hicks said:
Hi Roger,
sorry to say so, but as others too here I could not discover anything in this crap+junk post which could let me assume that it was meant ironic. And my expectations are the other way round: If this was meant really ironic the funny Rolleijoe should better say it now.
No matter if Yashica, Minolta, Mamiya or even Ricoh and Meopta, the latters at least on par with the Triotars, none of them is junk.
A Yashinon came quite close to the Tessar in one of these ridiculous test I've seen in the web. And tho I've met some Gagas who claim to see a "clear difference" on the negs with a 25X loupe (!!) I bet none of these "experts" can keep them apart with an identic print 40X40cm. Not to speak of the Mamiya lenses. And the Zeiss Planars on the other side seem to be not free of compromises, as I was told by folks in whose knowledge I trust.
Of course the build quality of a Mat124 is not like a Flex and as a PJ in the 60s, making my living with such a camera, I would have taken the Flex too.
More to FEEL save than because of a proven higher reliability.
But I am just a bloody amateur who babies his stuff and so I was glad to get a new Mat124 1986 for about $250,- when the Flex was (for me in those days) outta sight already somewhere at $2500,- AFAIK
About build quality a story, the difference between assumed and proven :
When I got it some months first, I dropped the Mat on concrete, I had pulled it out of the car boot together with a woolen blanket, a two meter high and 5 meter long curve in the air, and BANGG!! it landed.
I got so extremely upset that , out of control, I fired it on the concrete a second time to destroy it completely. My wife thought about calling the docs. The lens board was bended, the lens was out of everything, pressed into the board.
At home my wife suggested to let the Yashica repair, and after I had cooled my heels I sent it to Kyocera in Hamburg, to let it repair and to sell it then.
Came back completely rebuilt and perfectly adjusted for $ 65,- . It had a filter mounted when it hit the concrete and so the filter had(still has) a little ding, not the lensbarrel tho. Some test shots told me the lens was still perfect, no decentering or whatever, focus drive perfect too, and so I decided to keep it. Works perfect up til today, in June I'll tak it to Paris, on the tracks of Doisneau. ;-)
No, the film transport does not sound like a Flex, so what ? But it's a brick anyway. And I do not dare to think about what the Flex repair had costed.
I think I would have died by a stroke if that all would have had happened to me with a 3 months old Rolleiflex 2,8
Best regards to the southwest of France !
Bertram