First wet plate attempts

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DonF

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My daughter and I have been making dry plate tintypes using the Rockland Colloid process, with very good success. However, the images seem to lack the "punch" of a real wet plate tintype.

We took the plunge last week and ordered a cut-down kit from Bostick Sullivan, as much of the dry plate equipment is usable for wet plate.

I initially goofed up my silver nitrate bath by immersing the collodion-covered plates too soon and using a metal plate instead of glass for the initial solution "charging". The result was an amber-tinged silver nitrate bath with very fine black particles suspended in it. A day of sunning, multiple filterings and adding some additional silver nitrate cleared the solution completely. The solution is back to 1.07 at a ph of 4.

Initially, none of our plates showed an image, even after correcting the collodion setup time. After developing, there was a swirling white pattern along the edges of the plate on every exposure. Sometimes what image was there was completely obscured as the white swirls progressed to the center of the image, always worse around the edges.

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I was using a converted Alkon film holder that I had been using for dry plate. The holder is made of what appears to be pot metal or a zinc alloy. The plate contacts the holder all along the periphery of the plate. The metal of the film holder showed significant corrosion after a few plates. My theory is that the metal is contaminating the wet plate along the edges, with the contamination wicking across the surface of the plate. It was only when we were very fast with shooting and processing the plate that we at least started getting an image in the center.

Can someone with more experience verify that this is edge contamination. Very strange.

I modified an old wooden holder I had and painted the inside with 2-part clear epoxy glue thinned to water-like consistency with alcohol. I am hoping this protects the wood from the silver nitrate, once cured. I've used the same technique to fuel-proof balsa wood on model airplanes.

I also ordered a Graflex film pack adapter the fits the Graflok back of my view camera. Although made of metal, these seem quite easy to modify for wet plate use.

Any comments are gratefully appreciated.

Best,

DonF
 
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Peter Schrager

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Don why not spend some time and $ to take a workshop. There are quite a few good wet plate artists out there already...in the end it will save you time and $...sorry can't answer your question...good luck
 

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Don, You are clearly having fun experimenting, but as I've suggested in the past, you should consider taking a class (or even better, a private tutorial) with Mark Osterman at the George Eastman Museum. In the long run, it will save you a lot of time (and probably money).
 
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While very appreciative of the work done to instruct others in these techniques, a good part of the enjoyment for me is troubleshooting minor issues as they arise. Traveling cross country for a workshop at my own expense is beyond affordability at the moment.

Still hoping for some observations on my question regarding plate contamination and the artifacts on these two plates.

Regards,

Don
 

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don

it might be your conversion plate holders.
http://www.collodion.org/plateholderconversion.html
( from mark osterman's website :smile: )

i couldn't cut/paste the addy but if you type in
"convert dry plate to wet plate holders" into google there are also videos
and a page worth of links ( here on apug, lfpinfo, and other places too )
that discuss conversoins and the problems you might be having with your holder.

have fun !
john
 
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