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I live in Chesapeake, VA Any help would be appreciated! I thought about trying to find a club, but wanted to be a little more proficient. I try to figure things out myself before asking for help. The entire process is really fascinating and since Im so creative, I need control of the whole thing. Perfectionist!

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I have added a few of the images I have taken so far. Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please remember I have only taken four rolls of film in my extensive career! ;-)

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A really good piece of advice is to stick to one film one developer one type of paper at first that way you reduce the variables. Once you get used to them you can then start trying new things. Start using some filtration for contrast. Get into a consistent method of making test strips and you will soon be able to get to the correct exposure settings quickly. It's very addictive. The more prints you make the more critical you become. I'm about 2 years in now!
 

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I find using this little item good for narrowing down the correct exposure time.
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It gets you close with one test print.
From there you have to fine tune the exposure.
 
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Thanks all! Great advice, as I was preparing my next order with a different paper and developer! LOL!

Definitely getting the exposure scale. Looks like a handy little item!

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as I was preparing my next order with a different paper and developer

f you stick to one film and one film developer and have a consistent technique your negatives will all be similar densities (ignoring under/over exposure) and will have similar characteristics. There are differences between different film/dev combinations but they are fairly subtle, and will seldom be the factor that determines "good" or "bad", rather the difference between grainy, or grain free, and the subtle variations between highlight and shadow. Having well exposed consistent negatives make printing much easier. There are virtually no "bad combinations", so pick a standard - I tend now to use more Delta 400 and DDX than anything else, but that's just me. Pick anything you like to start with.

The biggest variable in the developing and printing process caused by materials in my experience is paper. I have never used kodak paper but e.g. there is a huge difference between the kentmere, ilford, foma papers. Kentmere, for example, is much faster. Paper developer has virtually no influence at all so use whatever is best for you.

When printing remember that you need enough exposure to get some detail in the highlights, and enough contrast to deepen the blacks. Discovering how these two variables interact is the principal part of the learning to print process.

If you haven't already found some settings, the filter settings on a colour head to adjust contrast can be found here under colour head settings.
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/2006130201152306.pdf

Have fun!
 
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Thanks all! Great advice, as I was preparing my next order with a different paper and developer! LOL!

Definitely getting the exposure scale. Looks like a handy little item!

Deb

Buy a small size of RC until you can split grade and burn and dodge like a pro. Saves a lotta money.
When developing by inspection use a kitchen timer don't pull the print out until after the timer goes.
Use a thermometer in the dev tray.
When you can fine art print then you can go to Bromoil and warm tones.
It is best to pick the easiest negative and waste a box getting it perfect.
A grain focus tool makes focus simple print at f/11 unless the print is big.
 

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I have to say Xmas, that I almost never criticise another poster, but I disagree with just about everything you have posted above. I think maybe you are an "old hand" and looking at this from the wrong end, whereas I am a relative newbie who has fairly recently gone through the learning curve to making decent prints I am satisfied with. Don't take it personally, but my reasons are below:-

Buy a small size of RC until you can split grade and burn and dodge like a pro. Saves a lotta money. >> NO, buy a decent size say 8 x 10. Good compromise and larger prints have more impact IMO. Yes you save a little money, but working (dodging/burning) on small prints is also much more difficult than on larger prints. You can easily cut down 8 x 10 if you want to, and its a good size to make decent test strips from.

When developing by inspection use a kitchen timer don't pull the print out until after the timer goes. >> WHY develop by inspection? - just develop to completion, and it takes a variable out of the process. Develop to completion - in my experience roughly twice the time from when the print initially looks just about "done".

Use a thermometer in the dev tray. >> No, provided the developer is't freezing, if you develop to completion it is almost irrelevant. I haven't found it necessary to monitor temperature of paper developer yet.

When you can fine art print then you can go to Bromoil and warm tones. >> ?? process of using warm tone paper and/or developer is just the same as using "normal" materials, it doesn't take any more/less skill. Use either/or as you wish. Bromoil is a different ball game entirely using home-brew chemicals, one at least of which is nasty, and belongs in the alt-process category.

It is best to pick the easiest negative and waste a box getting it perfect. >> NO, As a newbie, how do you know which is the easiest negative, or even what is "perfect"? Just print them as you go. You'll learn that some negs print easier than others. Striving for "perfection" on a single print in the early learning phase is IMO a waste of time and material. What is a good idea is to learn to print a set of contacts (and again 8 x 10 is a good size because you can print a whole 35mm or 120mm film on one sheet) and then its easier to select the negs that have the nicest images on.

A grain focus tool makes focus simple print at f/11 unless the print is big. >> Agreed, grain focus tool is very useful, but why stick to F11? Use whatever aperture gives reasonable print times, but bear in mind the "middle ground" 5.6-16 probably gives optimum performance on your lens.
 

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Regarding books, find a copy of Fred Picker's The Zone VI Workshop and read it before you tackle the Adam's books.
 
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