First Round, Paper Developer shootout

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TheFlyingCamera

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I posted the image for this a couple days ago, but I wanted to write up some of my results here. The impetus for this was my getting tired of having an unpredictable greenish tinge to my prints when developing warmtone papers in Dektol. I went on a quest for a new paper developer. I found the old Ansco 130 formula, and decided to give it a try, then shortly thereafter, Ilford announced they had come out with new warmtone and cooltone paper developers. In a fit of chutzpah, I asked the Ilford rep for some samples, and he obliged in a very generous fashion (many thanks, Simon Galley!). So, without further ado, the print sample -

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

As you can see from the image, I have included four different samples. All samples were developed using Bergger VCCB warmtone fiber paper. I will be repeating this process with Kentmere VC glossy fiber, and Foma VC 111 glossy fiber as well, and posting links as followups to this article when I have the prints finished and scanned.

The test:

I gave all four prints the exact same exposure at the exact same contrast grade. All were grade 2 on my dichro head on a Beseler 45 - filtration settings were 41 Y 32 M. All prints were given a total of 2 minutes time in the developer. The split warmtone/cooltone-developed print was given 1 minute in each developer bath, with the warmtone developer first, followed by the cooltone. The Ilford developers are diluted according to Ilford recommendation, 1:9. The Ansco 130 is diluted 1:1.

Les McLean has published a sample using this test, and found that in his case, (Ilford Warmtone paper) instead of a full two-minute development, the total developing time between the two baths was 1:30, or 45 seconds per bath for optimum development. I will be conducting a further test as part of this cycle to see what happens when employing variations of the split development technique: warmtone vs cooltone first, varying time ratios in each developer.

I tried his recommended time for this with the Bergger paper and found it to be too flat, with weak blacks and underdeveloped highlights. Until I have had opportunity to test this variance against other papers, I will ascribe my differing result to the paper choice.

Paper notes: Bergger VCCB is a warmtone, variable contrast paper. It is noted as being highly responsive to toning and development modulation. As you can see from the print samples, it produces noticeable tonal shifts based on the developer used.

Next Up: Kentmere VC Fiber Glossy.
 
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Thanks for giving us this.

The quality of the new Ilford developers is truly remarkable. In the example they show a slightly lower contrast than the Ansco 130 (which I have always liked, although it's a bit hard to keep fresh stocks), and a great delicacy.
 
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Welcome. I'm surprised you have a problem with keeping Ansco 130 fresh. It has a reputation of being very long-lived, even at working strength. I did this test in open trays so that I could have enough space to have three different developers sitting out at one time. My chemistry is still quite active even after sitting out for five days.

I normally process in a Nova 16x20 vertical slot processor. This helps keep oxidation to a minimum, because it only has about 10 square inches of surface area for a whole gallon of chemistry. Working that way, I put about 20 8x10s and four 16x20s through one batch of Ansco without any noticeable falloff in potency, over the space of more than a month. I mix my Ansco at 1:1 from stock.

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Thanks for giving us this.

The quality of the new Ilford developers is truly remarkable. In the example they show a slightly lower contrast than the Ansco 130 (which I have always liked, although it's a bit hard to keep fresh stocks), and a great delicacy.
 

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I have finally found some of the new Ilford developers and I have this feeling that they may become my favourites.
Last night I developed Kentona ( a favourite paper) in Ansco 130 and Neutol WA. The prints are indistinguishable.
Mark
 
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Here is the next set of tests:

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

There is a noticeable difference in the image tone performance with the Kentmere from the Bergger, that is to say there is very little difference between the various developers when using the Kentmere paper, which is a coldtone paper, whereas the Bergger shows significant tonal shifts depending on developer.
 

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Kentmere has developer incorporated into the emulsion which might affect the results of color tone. I know nothing about the Berger products.

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If I'm not mistaken, the Bergger line is manufactured at the Forté plant in Hungary. I've read that its the same emulsion, I've read of emulsion differences...
 

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Bergger

Geez-this is really old news folks. Bergger doesn't make anything that I know of. The paper (which is beautiful) is manufactured by Forte in their plant but to Bergger's specifications. It is not the same as the PolyWarmtone that Forte puts in their own box. If you don't believe me just spend the money on a box of each and find out for yourself....
Best, Peter
 
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