First HIE IR photos

[stradibarrius]

here are a couple od shots I took yesterday with a Nikon FE. I shot this roll at ASA 400 and used a #25 red filter. I processed this roll in HC-110 1+50 @68 for 8 min.
As you can see one shot is very grainy but the pecan grove shot is not so grainy.
Is HIE a grainy film in general?

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

It is a wonderfully grainy film!

 

[stradibarrius]

Great! I love the look but this is my first roll and I was just curious about it's characteristics.

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Your pictures look very normal for HIE grain wise.

 

[Vincent Brady]

I think your IR shots are excellent and grain is very much a feature of the film. Your second 2 shots look really nice and are not dominated by grain. Every photographer I know have their own favourite ASA setting and developer. Your shots seem to be turning out fine so my advice is don't change for change sake. My film is long out of date so I set my ASA at 640 asa and then bracket two thirds of a stop either side of it. I use the red filter and develop it in ID11 (1+1) for 13 minutes.
Good luck with your shooting.
__________
Vincent

 

[stradibarrius]

Thanks Tex. I have admired many of your shots. I see you use Rodinal sometimes with HIE. What dilution and times?

 

[jpa]

Nice shots. I love HIE, and ( along with most ever other film-shooter ) wishes that Kodak was still making it.

I shoot it at EI 320 with the same filter you use, and develop it in Rodinal 1:50 at 14 minutes ( 68 degrees ). Thhey turned out fine to my eye.

Here's a link to RFF, where I posted a couple of shots :
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79984

Jan

 

[Jeff Kubach]

Wonderful shots. I love IR film.

Jeff

 

[whlogan]

I'm sure you're aware that Kodak, in its stupidity, no longer makes this wonderful film and while there are still some small pockets of it about, they are hard to find and very expensive. Your time and $$$ might better be well spent working with Efke IR820 or Rollei Retro Superpan (which may soon also go away)....work with stuff that you can reliably get.... wonderful work.... keep it up

Logan

 

[Sirius Glass]

I'm sure you're aware that Kodak, in its stupidity, no longer makes this wonderful film

Not stupidity. The U. S. Government after twenty years stopped buying IR film that was not being used. If you are so smart come up with that much money and see if you can get Kodak interested. Otherwise stop bashing Kodak when you do not know what you are talking about.

 

[stradibarrius]

I only had 5 rolls to start with. I got if from another APUG member in a trade so now I have 4 rolls left. I want to make the best use of the 4 remaining rolls. At that point I will start using Efke 820. I have some Rollei IR but it is not HIE.
I am trying to make every shot count!
here is another shot off of that 1st roll.

 

[danegermouse]

hie is in a class of its own. love it or hate it (believe it or not some people do) it is certainly something different. the grain is to be expected, especially with age. i have only one roll left in the freezer and it is many many years past its due but i will savour it nonetheless. your shots look great btw, seems like you have struck a very workable routine for your remaining rolls.

dane.

 

[stradibarrius]

I think I am going to load up a roll of my Rollei IR and compare the results.

 

[whlogan]

Bashing Kodak is a folk pastime, Sir.... its fun and its worth while. They never explain and they don not seem to care one whit about their photographer base (us).... take Verichrome Pan and Panatomic X or Super pan or a host of others, they just quit making it without so much as a f**k you guys. No wonder so many of us use other manufacturers products now. TriX Pro also come to mind. I don't want or need a fight with any one, but Kodak is not one of my favorite makers of anything. They used to be, but no more.
Logan

 

[Thomas Bertilsson]

Well, you are welcome to your opinion, and now I'll state mine.

I think Kodak makes the best film there is, and they are trying their best to rationalize their product line in order to survive. I think we'd all be a lot less fortunate if Kodak all of a sudden disappeared.

I do agree with you that their marketing department acts in mysterious ways, though. I always appreciated when there were clear channels of communication, and if Kodak could at least publicly explain why certain products are disappearing, I would be a much more avid supporter of them.

With that said, I still like their Tmax 400 film so much that I will continue to use it as my primary film as long as it's available. I like it more than any other Kodak film I have tried. And I will process it in replenished Xtol chemistry, because to me there is no other developer that fits my needs so well.

Bashing Kodak is a folk pastime, Sir.... its fun and its worth while. They never explain and they don not seem to care one whit about their photographer base (us).... take Verichrome Pan and Panatomic X or Super pan or a host of others, they just quit making it without so much as a f**k you guys. No wonder so many of us use other manufacturers products now. TriX Pro also come to mind. I don't want or need a fight with any one, but Kodak is not one of my favorite makers of anything. They used to be, but no more.
Logan

 

[Andrew Horodysky]

stradibarrius,

I too, think that Kodak HIE was a superior infra-red film. Today, you'll just have to figure out which of the remaining brands will work best for you. Your photos, shown here, look fine. In fact, for a "first" infra-red roll, they look great.

I used to shoot it at EI 100 (I think) / at f8 or f11 / #25 red filter / develop in D-76 (pre-XTOL days). The grain structure and contrast seemed to be more pleasing to me -- completely subjective. Again, nicely done.

Cheers,

Andrew

 

[Vincent Brady]

Thanks Tex. I have admired many of your shots. I see you use Rodinal sometimes with HIE. What dilution and times?

When I started out using IR I followed an article in a photo magazine which suggested using Rodinal 1:25 for 5.5 minutes. I got printable results so I stuck with that combination for years. I always used to bracket two thirds of a stop either side of my 400 asa setting.
At a later stage I changed my asa to 200 and developed it in Rodinal 1+40 for 8 minutes.
Nowadays because my film is way past its expiry date I set it at 640 asa and still bracket two thirds of a stop either side and develop it in ID11 (1+1) for 13 minutes and still get printable negs at all 3 exposures.
Hope this might be of use to you.
Cheers
Vincent

 

[stradibarrius]

Just bwhat I was looking for thanks.

 

[jpa]

I only had 5 rolls to start with. I got if from another APUG member in a trade so now I have 4 rolls left. I want to make the best use of the 4 remaining rolls. At that point I will start using Efke 820. I have some Rollei IR but it is not HIE.
I am trying to make every shot count!
here is another shot off of that 1st roll.

Consider yourself blessed! I also have one roll left ( frozen since 1994 ) that I'm saving for something extraordinary ( or so I hope ). I've yet to try the other IR films, due to the fact that they're all so incredibly slow. I can't tall you how much I miss HIE. A truly remarkable film.

 

[glbeas]

I'm glad you're having so much fun with that stuff. Great results!
We need to get out and shoot some film. I think I have a few sheets of 4x5 HIE left somewhere. Bad stuff!

 

[whlogan]

I surely did not not mean nor intend to get the thread off topic and onto bashing Kodak. I loved and still love TriX beyond all others. Their products did and have done more to advance modern photography than any others. The real point of the thread was the three fine images you produced, and they are very fine images, very fine. Certainly better than the first 3 I made in IR. So, all of you, please forgive my digression and bad language
Logan