First Frame of Bronica ETR

RedSun · Feb 1, 2020

Just wonder if anyone has had anything like this.

Just processed a 120 film from an Bronica ETR-Si. Part of the first frame is too close to the film leader that a portion of the frame got cut when the film was loaded onto reel.

If this happens to anyone else, then we can try to lead the fresh film slightly past the fill winding mark. Very likely this film was not taped to the leader?

Pieter12 · Feb 1, 2020

Was there tape or not?

RedSun · Feb 1, 2020

Pieter12 said:
Was there tape or not?

Yes, leader is taped. It is relatively new film. Never had problem like this.

Sometimes I pulled off the tape. But I cut near the tape this time. Both camera and film back in excellent shape.

But the film was loaded months ago. This might cause the problem and something moved.

M-88 · Feb 5, 2020

Never had such case. However it's noteworthy that film position is different for Ilford and Kodak films. Namely FP4+ and Portra 400, with Kodak positioned closer to starting point.

But again - there's enough film remaining before the first frame when loading in 120 mag.

abruzzi · Feb 5, 2020

I've had starting point issues with a few other cameras, but never with my ETRSi or any of its backs. There is easily enough slop at the end that loading 1or 2cm past the start arrow shouldn't push the last frame past the end of the film.

RedSun · Feb 5, 2020

abruzzi said:
I've had starting point issues with a few other cameras, but never with my ETRSi or any of its backs. There is easily enough slop at the end that loading 1or 2cm past the start arrow shouldn't push the last frame past the end of the film.

Yes, it is better to over-wind the first frame. The camera won't allow more frame after the it passes its frame max.

First Frame of Bronica ETR

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