To me, it seems slightly more Ortho than Delta or Tmax 100. It doesn't respond to a red filter very well-- skys don't get much darker, and green foliage just goes to pure black.... even going to a stop more than recommended filter factor. Other than that, for me at least, filters behave like they would on Delta or Tmax. If I want really dramatic skys, I'll stack a polarizer and a yellow or orange.
Those two claims are contradictory. Generally, "ortho" films are only sensitive to blue and some green. Extended red sensitivity means that the film would record at least partially into the infra-red. That would be quite a problem for ortho films, particularly when you go to develop by inspection. What I think folks are getting at is that traditional films were, relatively, less sensitive to blue than red and therefore using a red filter would give you darker skies compared to the newest films (Acros/Delta/T-Max) which have a much flatter spectral sensitivity.
Go with FP-4+ if you want that old sky look with finer grain.
I think I added enough qualifiers in the above to wiggle out of trouble. Good luck,
What I think folks are getting at is that traditional films were, relatively, less sensitive to blue than red and therefore using a red filter would give you darker skies compared to the newest films (Acros/Delta/T-Max) which have a much flatter spectral sensitivity.
Go with FP-4+ if you want that old sky look with finer grain.
I think I added enough qualifiers in the above to wiggle out of trouble. Good luck,
Neal, I think you are saying that the trad grain films such as FP4 will give darker skies with a red filter and yet in the case of TMax Kodak states that it is less sensitive to blue giving darker blues( closer to how the eyes sees blue) so I'd presume that with a red the TMax skies should be darker
In the Kodak quote however I don't think it says what it is less sensitive than. Is it FP4+, HP5+, Tri-X? It just doesn't say unfortunately
Neal, I think you are saying that the trad grain films such as FP4 will give darker skies with a red filter and yet in the case of TMax Kodak states that it is less sensitive to blue giving darker blues( closer to how the eyes sees blue) so I'd presume that with a red the TMax skies should be darker
In the Kodak quote however I don't think it says what it is less sensitive than. Is it FP4+, HP5+, Tri-X? It just doesn't say unfortunately
I believe you have clearly demonstrated that the vast majority the differences discussed is, for all practical purposes, picking the fly poop out of the pepper.
Just to satisfy curiosity, did you set contrast (or: black and white points) equal to each other or to taste individually? The only "real" difference I see is the TMY-2 frame going a bit darker in the deep shadows, hence my question.
Just to satisfy curiosity, did you set contrast (or: black and white points) equal to each other or to taste individually? The only "real" difference I see is the TMY-2 frame going a bit darker in the deep shadows, hence my question.
I essentially let the scanner do it's thing, but from my experience, in a given scene that is comparable, the scanner will give the proper comparison... This MIGHT help....
Yellow filter
Red filter
To qualify, the clouds did change the exposure slightly and you can see the sky is more exposed in one as the sun "burst through" just as I was shooting, but relatively speaking I think this will be helpful to see as a reference, also obviously there's no accounting for differences in development times where I might have over developed, etc, still getting used to the rotary processor times.