Film Stocks with a Classic Vintage Look (like Agfa/Adox)?

[donetskiy]

Most of the cameras I’m handling are 35mm or 120 — curious: what’s your favorite modern film stock that gives a vintage look similar to early Agfa or Adox films?

 

[pentaxuser]

I'd have thought that on the "continuous improvement" path that film makers have seemed to have followed there would be none that resemble much older or "vintage" film

I suppose in the Ilford line-up the current Pan F may not have changed much if any since it was launched many years ago and based on it being stilled called Pan F my assumption is that it may be the same or close to the same Pan F when it was launched

I suppose the recent launch of ortho films might hark back to what you describe as the vintage look but this is an assumption on my part as I don't know much about what you regard as the vintage look

So can you describe what you regard as vintage or maybe all you are looking for is our opinion on what each of us regard as modern film with vintage looks

While I am pretty vintage my photography did not start in that era

pentaxuser

 

[donetskiy]

Thank you!

I'd have thought that on the "continuous improvement" path that film makers have seemed to have followed there would be none that resemble much older or "vintage" film

I suppose in the Ilford line-up the current Pan F may not have changed much if any since it was launched many years ago and based on it being stilled called Pan F my assumption is that it may be the same or close to the same Pan F when it was launched

I suppose the recent launch of ortho films might hark back to what you describe as the vintage look but this is an assumption on my part as I don't know much about what you regard as the vintage look

So can you describe what you regard as vintage or maybe all you are looking for is our opinion on what each of us regard as modern film with vintage looks

While I am pretty vintage my photography did not start in that era

pentaxuser

 

[retina_restoration]

That's easy - Adox CHS 100 II

 

[Paul Howell]

Foma action pan 400. I also think Trix 320 is a fairly old emulsion, when Kodak last updated Trix 400 not sure if they updated 320. Then Delta or Tmax 3200 shot at 1600 or 3200 will have grain.

 

[Ian Grant]

The "Look" is largely down to your interpretation in printing or post scanning, apart from Spectral response.

If by Adox you mean the old rebadged EFKE films then the Kb.R/Pl 25 was an amazing film, LF quality from 35mm negatives.

I've not been shooting Agfa and Adox/EFKE films very long, only 40 or 50 years, but I would not call them "Vintage look".

Ian

 

[abruzzi]

for an old look, you might try an orthochromatic film (not red sensitive) like Foma Ortho 400, Ilford Ortho, or Ferrania Ortho (if you can find any.) It will be especially noricable on faces, especially people with freckled skin.

 

[JPD]

I have tried many different films and been surprised that even modern films can look "timeless" depending on the subject, my own mood, lighting, and probably many more small things. Films can have somewhat different spectral response, but lighting and weather will also affect how they look.

 

[GregY]

The look depends on the printing as well.
Using Foma 131 results in a vintage look

 

[MattKing]

If you compose and light a photo in a vintage manner, the results from most modern films will look vintage.
More important, make the sort of printing/post processing choices that were made in vintage times.
People tended to use more exposure with older films than what is recommended now, so for the same format, there was more grain and marginally more shadow detail, at the expense of highlight rendition.
So exposure can factor in as well.
As some of the more modern films are much finer grained, and even the more traditional style films are a bit finer grained, if you want to emulate vintage levels of grain with more modern films you may need to consider adjusting exposure and development to add some.

 

[AZD]

The look depends on the printing as well.
Using Foma 131 results in a vintage look

Yep. I recently purchased a box and have made a few test prints of the same negative on 131 and some other papers. It definitely looks “vintage”, or whatever we mean when we say that, compared to, say, MGRC glossy, which is about as modern as silver gelatin paper gets.

Short version: the final print or presentation will have a lot to do with how the image “feels”.

As for films though, most are pretty modern in specifications and manufacturing. I have a small stash of Efke 25, it really was something unique. CHS 100 II has some shared lineage with Efke, but more grain for certain. I think FP4 can look about as vintage as anything current. Very responsive to processing, rather forgiving in exposure.

As Matt just mentioned, exposure and processing play a role. I have many of my grandfather’s negatives going back to the early 1950s, maybe even a few older ones. They were exposed well and are developed to a higher contrast than would be typical today. I know they are mostly Kodak and suspect the earliest are Verichrome (ortho, not pan) based on typed notes and age of known subjects. Most print quite easily given the high contrast. Do they look vintage? I guess so, 75 years later.

 

[Chuck1]

That's easy - Adox CHS 100 II

Developed in fx39?

 

[retina_restoration]

Developed in fx39?

Doesn’t much matter what developer you choose - the film has a unique look and tonality “baked in”.

 

[pentaxuser]

Doesn’t much matter what developer you choose - the film has a unique look and tonality “baked in”.

Does that mean that in a line of prints you can tell those from CHS 100 II negatives compared to those made from other developers - it is literally that unique ?

Thanks

pentaxuser

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

FP4 in my Mamiya-Six.

 

[Dan Daniel]

I wonder if much of what is considered vintage film look is down to the lens more than the film?

 

[blee1996]

I think film is still playing a larger part than lenses. For vintage look but fresh stock, I like Fomapan 100/400, Double-X, PanF 50.

On the other hand, I have plenty of long expired Plus-X and Verichrome Pan that will give the authentic old school look.

 

[Paul Howell]

Thinking about it, as noted by blee1996, Eastman Double XX movie film. I think the emulsion goes back a ways, maybe to the 70s. Has some grain, resolution is similar to PluX 125 at 100LPMM when used at still film. D76 1:1, DDX, or Rodinal to bring out the grain.