I know them well. I used to use one in college. Anyway that's why I said economical. Any film recorder will not be cheap especially ones hat can match the resolution of film.
It's called a film recorder - takes your digital file and laser transfers it onto real film. They've been around quite awhile. Not a cheap service,
however.
Or you could have put them on a CD in 1985 and still be able to use the data.And for the 5% of photographers who persist in the effort of moving old data to new media types (to illustrate, we would have moved data from ST-506 MFM drives to RLL drives to ESDI drives to IDE (PATA) drives then to SATA drives just to keep data accessible from 1985 to 2013...<snip>
Or you could have put them on a CD in 1985 and still be able to use the data.
Except that CD often degrade in a few decades and the data will no longer be retrievable.
Gelatin can degrade in a few hours if conditions are right! Most of the slides I took in the 1980s have at least some mildew on them. My music CDs from the late 80s are still fine.Except that CD often degrade in a few decades and the data will no longer be retrievable.
I disagree with you, Sirius.
I've found it doesn't take a few decades.
Gelatin can degrade in a few hours if conditions are right! Most of the slides I took in the 1980s have at least some mildew on them. My music CDs from the late 80s are still fine.
Gelatin can degrade in a few hours if conditions are right! Most of the slides I took in the 1980s have at least some mildew on them. My music CDs from the late 80s are still fine.
Store your CDs on the floor without protective cases and see how well they last.
Fine. Understanding can be hard. My point, which clearly escaped you completely, is that storage conditions matter - film will deteriorate and so will CDs (and anything else you can think of). Stored well, CDs can certainly last 30 years - mine have. They have not been around long enough to know beyond that. Stored badly, they will not last.Score:Peltigera 0
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CD's are wonderfully retrievable. Golden retrievers love to play fetch with them. I'd imagine most other retrievers would too. They toss great...
really nice for skeet shooting also.
Just wondering; who on APUG makes high quality backups/copies on FILM of his/her negatives and slides and stores those at a different location than at home. So that if your house burns down, gets flooded or totally shredded in a storm or tornado, you still have your backups and you haven't lost all those years of your photographic efforts? Easy to do with digital; a 1..3 TB portable hard dive is small and fairly cheap. Do a backup every week and keep it for example at work. And when you buy that new computer anyway, it comes with a much bigger hard drive than the old computer. Enough space to move your old files over and add more. And if you're smart, you put 2 hard drives in a mirror configuration in the new computer. If one drive fails, you still have the other plus the external backup.
Come on people, film and digital both have their pros and cons but neither is superior. Just enjoy the pros of both, live with the cons of both and stop comparing the two. In the end it's the image/photograph/print that counts, the medium and process are irrelevant. Is a nice painting superior to a nice photograph?
And I could still read Hollerith cards if I still had a card reader.
I doubt film would survive under such severe condition either.
FWIW, my concern with CD/DVD storage is more with the lifetime of the necessary readers than it is with the media. The first CDs suffered from 'CD rot' as described earlier, but the current Gold media doesn't have those problems.
(BTW, I've been programing computers since 1960)
It would be slow, but if the data was important enough, you could read them by eye.
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