Film Problem - Zeiss Ikon Super Ikonta IV

VanPelt · Jul 4, 2011

Hi all,

I've been using an old Zeiss Ikon Super Ikonta IV for a while, and I'm having some trouble with the film. As I understand it, the original film was thicker than modern film, which causes the frames to overlap; this problem grows worse with every shot.

I was just wondering if anyone has any tips on how to avoid this. I really like the camera, especially the colours, and would like to use it more.

Jeff L · Jul 4, 2011

I know there are fixes, I just can't remember exactly. If no-one here know exactly, there's the Zeiss Ikon Group on yahoo. I seem to remember that some would add something small to the take up spool. If I remember where I read it I'll pipe back up.

Alastair_I · Jul 4, 2011

Is there not a way of defeating the filmcounter-shutter interlock and just using the film window?

vedmak · Jul 4, 2011

Alastair_I said:
Is there not a way of defeating the filmcounter-shutter interlock and just using the film window?

I second that suggestion, just use the film window and you will be fine, that works for me pretty well with my Ikonta.

Andy38 · Jul 4, 2011

There is the same problem on my Old Standard Rolleiflex; to fix it, I add two turns of tape on each edge of the take up spool.

Jeff L · Jul 4, 2011

Andy38 said:
There is the same problem on my Old Standard Rolleiflex; to fix it, I add two turns of tape on each edge of the take up spool.

I knew it. Thanks Andy. Going to do this on my Super Ikonta I dug out to start using.
Jeff

Mainecoonmaniac · Jul 4, 2011

I have a Super Ikonta IV also, but don't have a problem with overlapping frames. I wonder if it needs servicing?

Towermax · Jul 4, 2011

Near the bottom of this page on the Super Ikonta III and IV, Jurgen says, "Before loading your film, cut 2 of film paper backing from an old film and tape it to your new films leader. Youll have to experiment, you may need 2 1/2 or 3 depends on your camera of leader."

http://www.certo6.com/cameras/zeiss-super-ikonta

He's also got a couple of pictures off to the side.

P C Headland · Jul 5, 2011

"they all do that, sir"

As previously mentioned, you need to add a little thickness to the take-up spool - a couple of turns of backing paper or similar is often enough. You will find differences between films too. I often just wind the arrows on past the start mark, to just by the take-up spool chamber. That seems to be enough to stop overlapping frames, though some are close.

The "red window", at least on the III, is not a red window at all, just a little spy hole - big enough to see you've got film loaded, not big enough to see the numbers.

VanPelt · Jul 10, 2011

Thanks guys, I'll experiment and see if I can sort it out!

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