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Film. No Compromise.


Some people just like to bitch.
 
Ron LarFor4X5 said:
I "watched" the video of Mr. Sam Bayer, expressing his opinion.
I have no idea who he is, and what he has accomplished,
but I felt his Enthusiasm, and Passion for Film !
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100% same here. Film fanaticism is good for my soul and inspires me.
 
I use both. And I enjoy using both. However I use difgital for assignments and analogue for my free work. I feel more creative when using analogue b&w film. I don't know why probably because you have to think more before doing something. In digital you can erase the previous action without effort. To me that is very handy but also less satisfying.
Anyway I like both techniques. When used well both can produce high quality art.
 
IloveTLRs said:
100% same here. Film fanaticism is good for my soul and inspires me.
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Hi ILoveTLRs,

Are you my Brother, from another Mother ?
I asked, Enthusiastically !
Just checking ...


Ron

From The Long Island Of New York, and the
Long Island @ Large Format Group, right here on APUG
.
 
clayne said:
Seriously, Kodak puts some videos up supporting film and the like and people are finding fault with it. Kodak doesn't do it other places and they're faulted for not advertising film *enough*. What do you want?
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Amen!
 
Ron LarFor4X5 said:
Hi ILoveTLRs,

Are you my Brother, from another Mother ?
I asked, Enthusiastically !
Just checking ...
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I do believe so

In this day and age when film seems to take such a beating and is prematurely thought of as "retro", things like this are a great morale booster. A little bit of comfort for the weary troops waging the long film battle, fighting the good fight.
 
clayne said:
What do you want?
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Thinking about this today, I tried to pin down things that had really influenced me recently and made me want to go out and shoot more and the two things that came to mind are both Kodak related but neither feature men talking.

Firstly, Dan Bayer's excellent eulogy to Kodachrome. This really had a strong affect on me, it was at once beautiful and sad. Importantly, I made me track down more rolls of Kodachrome and get shooting the stuff. It's a wonderful video and I still watch it from time-to-time now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yp6HARg7Fs

Secondly, the video that was posted here on APUG a few weeks back of an early Kodachrome film test from 1922. It's such a hypnotic and ethereal video and I could see how it could have been used in a marketing campaign for Kodachrome - it's got everything: beauty, heritage, great colours. Something directly related to a product available today (just):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_RTnd3Smy8

What I liked about both of these was how they present beautiful images with soundtracks that stuck in the mind. The message to me is clear - want to get great stuff like this? Shoot film. The videos of those men talking did nothing for me but I will concede that it could be a cultural thing as my British ear didn't get at all excited about them. I'd have liked them to have spoken about what film stocks they chose and how this is influenced by the light, the mood and their vision. This could have been cut with examples of the film. Maybe also these guys shoot still film or Super8 for personal projects - more interesting avenues that could have shown how the film looks and how different film types can be chosen for different occasions and different moods (a strong point for film I think).
 
clayne said:
Come on guys, it's damn well apparent that people think "digital == newer, therefore better" and these guys will be asked about HD etc.
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I leave the digital work for the urologists. - Sirius Glass
 
A lot depends on what you're used to. I like film because of its physical nature, much as was stated in the clip. I feel it is permanent and always available to me. Digital can be wiped out so easily by so many things. It can also be changed in ways so that you can never get back the original. That can happen with film, too. But I'm used to film, and its unlikely. I've been doing a lot of digital work lately, and the results, all in all, are about as good as my film work. There are some applications where either film or digital may be preferable, but it usually doesn't make much difference. There are some limitations (different limitations) that show up when processing either one. But I have been using film for over 60 years, and I'm used to it. I like having a negative to work with. I take advantage of film's strong points. It isn't so much the technical arguments of film versus digital these days, but how you work and what you're used to.
 

Hi ILoveTLRs ( My Brother ! ),

My first response was based on "feeling" Mr. Bayers enthusiasm.
And that reminded me of the enthusiasm that I had for film when I was 16.
Then again I was shooting Kodachrome 25 !
Am I the only one that had my emotions stimulated by Kodachrome ?
Or maybe even "Simulated" by Kodachrome ?
Last year I was reading a photography magazine, and feeling slightly insulted
that it was dedicated to Digital Photography. But, there was a brief mention of film, and the German word, Einmaligkeit : singleness, uniqueness, singularity, matchlessness

At that moment I realized that Analog Photography
is the purest form of Einmaligkeit.
There might be a few unique Digital images,
that have never been enhanced or manipulated.

After I finished reading the magazine, I went home and removed the
XE-7, and the 45F from the closet, and placed a bid on some expired film.
Started using my new E-mail address : PicturesOfYou -AT- Einmaligket.Com
And became an APUG Subscriber !

One word made me rediscover the true meaning of photography.
Capturing The Moment On A Piece Of Film Is Einmaligkeit.

This is My Personal Experience, And My Personal Opinion.
I hope that no one is offended by it.
The Side Effects Of Analog Photography Might Be Enthusiasm, Hopefully.


Ron

From The Long Island Of New York, and the
Long Island @ Large Format Group, right here on APUG
.
 
lxdude said:
I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.

When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.
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I think I found my next sig line.
 
For me photography is all about patience and discovery.

I find a scene, I begin to imagine what the final print might look like. I compose the image on some form of ground glass and take an exposure reading. Then I think about the reading, because I know I can't go back and undo the moment of exposure and I have a limit on how much I can shoot at once. I find that film limits the number of shots I can take but because of that I spend more time on each shot, I start to develope new ideas. I see things in different ways than if I just went with a few impulse shots and then moved on.

Then I develope the film, here is where the real patience comes in. I have to wait through developer, stop, fix and rinse before I can discover how well my desired interpretation of a scene came out. Everytime I open the developing tank it's like recieving a secret santa's present, will I like what I find? When I do like it it's a kin to christmas morning!

Printing? see developing and repeat

Just my expiriences...
 
Joe O'Brien said:
For me photography is all about patience and discovery.
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You Are Correct Sir.

When I was using my "DigiSnapper", In most situations my only concern
was how much space left on the 2 GigaByte Memory Card.

And when I did slow down and actually try to take a photograph,
I would admire it, and the wished I had used an analog camera instead.
But, I'm a Spoiled Bastard, I grew up using Kodachrome
You never look at a picture and wished that it was taken digitally.

Don't it always seem to go, That you don't know what you've got
Till it's gone ...


Ron

From The Long Island Of New York, and the
Long Island @ Large Format Group, right here on APUG
.
 
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