Film Ferrania wants to know about the E6 lab you like to use

Regular Rod · Dec 3, 2014

Now wouldn't it be great if Ferrania and a chemical manufacturer like Tetenal did a deal whereby Ferrania clients would be able to buy Tetenal E6 kits at very specially low prices to encourage more of us to both use and develop Ferrania's E6? We might need to enclose 10 box tops from Ferrania to get the Tetenal discount and maybe we could also be able to send in a Tetenal box top when we bought Ferrania E6 and earn a reciprocal discount on our next order of sheets or rolls of Ferrania E6 film...

Would this generate loyalty, extra business, new users? Would it work at all?

RR

Sirius Glass · Dec 3, 2014

flavio81 said:
Yes benjiboy!! We have a 66+ page thread on this forum regarding this item. If tl;dr (too long to read), this is the thread in short:

- Ferrania will start production of E6 films next year
- An extremely succesful kickstarter campaign was made and the backers will get the first batches of film in fancy packaging plus more nice stuff
- Film is ISO 100, daylight, reversal, E6 process, a reengineered emulsion based on IMATION ScotchChrome 100, whose datasheet is available on the net
- They will be able to offer other emulsions on the future, mainly ISO 400 and a pushable ISO 800 film, all E6
- Plus, most likely, an emulsion based on Solaris 100 FG Plus (color negative film)
- Formats, for starters, are 135, 120, 8mm, and 16mm movie film
- They have the ability to manufacture 127, 126 film, and will probably do it
- They want to keep this effort sustainable "for the next 100 years"
- Factory is in Italy, downsized to a reasonable scale of production.
- Original engineers of 3M/Ferrania are working on the project
- Ferrania has presence in APUG as the user "FILMFerrania" who is Dave Bias

also

- we asked for rare film formats and specialist emulsions
- we posted about Kodachrome and blah blah blah K-14 blah blah Nice colors blah blah Paul Simon blah blah blah Afghan Girl it blah blah blah blah Archival stability blah blah blah blah Sharpness blah blah blah blah Complex process blah blah blah blah Dwayne's blah blah blah blah...

Finally

- we generally gave Dave Bias a hard time with a truckload of off topic posts, yet he came back to keep reading and posting nicely and answering all our requests, in the most masochistic way.

This is the thread, in short.

Thank you for summarizing this.

Sirius Glass · Dec 3, 2014

flavio81 said:
+1

May I join the "anti Kodachrome-threads" brigade?

YES!!

StoneNYC · Dec 3, 2014

Regular Rod said:
Now wouldn't it be great if Ferrania and a chemical manufacturer like Tetenal did a deal whereby Ferrania clients would be able to buy Tetenal E6 kits at very specially low prices to encourage more of us to both use and develop Ferrania's E6? We might need to enclose 10 box tops from Ferrania to get the Tetenal discount and maybe we could also be able to send in a Tetenal box top when we bought Ferrania E6 and earn a reciprocal discount on our next order of sheets or rolls of Ferrania E6 film...

Would this generate loyalty, extra business, new users? Would it work at all?

RR

I really want a 6 bath kit, I think it would be great to have a package deal 2 pro packs and all the chemistry in a kit.

In my case 2 boxes of 8x10 and the chemistry

flavio81 · Dec 3, 2014

StoneNYC said:
Dwayne's Photo is another E-6 lab that's good but only do 120 and 35mm not sheet film. Which is why I use Praus.

Dwayne's?

You mean DWAYNE'S the last ones to be capable of processing... ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpaNJqF4po

flavio81 · Dec 3, 2014

Back to topic and I hope David Bias is reading...

It would be nice to merge the forthcoming Ferrania's "E6 lab" list with the current Ilford's b/w lab list.

It would be a very nice effort that could help both companies.

blockend · Dec 3, 2014

It will be enlightening to see how much interest there is in slide film. I'm a slide user, but in the digital era transparencies feel like a niche within a niche, being difficult (impossible?) to home scan successfully, relatively expensive, requiring largely defunct hardware to project, and critical exposure to shoot.

Slides libraries are literally being dumped, and product lines have been the hardest hit, on a manufacturer base, of any film medium. However, Ferannia have IMO correctly judged that transparencies have the least competition of all film products, and there's room for diverse films and formats to re-ignite interest. I wish them well, and hope they don't go for boutique prices or gratuitously quirky dead ends (red scale trannie anyone?)

Nzoomed · Dec 3, 2014

blockend said:
It will be enlightening to see how much interest there is in slide film. I'm a slide user, but in the digital era transparencies feel like a niche within a niche, being difficult (impossible?) to home scan successfully, relatively expensive, requiring largely defunct hardware to project, and critical exposure to shoot.

Slides libraries are literally being dumped, and product lines have been the hardest hit, on a manufacturer base, of any film medium. However, Ferannia have IMO correctly judged that transparencies have the least competition of all film products, and there's room for diverse films and formats to re-ignite interest. I wish them well, and hope they don't go for boutique prices or gratuitously quirky dead ends (red scale trannie anyone?)

Well i love slide film, and im not actually shooting it for slides, infact the news of Ferrania re-introducing E6 is the main reason i have so much interest in it!

GO Film Ferrania!

flavio81 · Dec 3, 2014

blockend said:
It will be enlightening to see how much interest there is in slide film. I'm a slide user, but in the digital era transparencies feel like a niche within a niche, being difficult (impossible?) to home scan successfully, relatively expensive, requiring largely defunct hardware to project, and critical exposure to shoot.)

Projectors are plenty and easy to find, and cheaper than ever. They only need bulbs to work, in many cases the original bulb works.

Critical exposure was solved with the invention of the light meter and the gray card...

As for scanning, i thought negs were a bit harder to scan due to the narrower density values.

Regular Rod · Dec 3, 2014

Home scanning E6... I leave a little bit of white showing through by moving the film edge a tiny bit along the film carrier. This seems to let the scanner sort itself out and the scan to proceed without the weird colour changes due to inability to decided what white is. This works well with the Better Scanning holders and the ANR glass.

RR

benjiboy · Dec 3, 2014

flavio81 said:
Yes benjiboy!! We have a 66+ page thread on this forum regarding this item. If tl;dr (too long to read), this is the thread in short:

- Ferrania will start production of E6 films next year
- An extremely succesful kickstarter campaign was made and the backers will get the first batches of film in fancy packaging plus more nice stuff
- Film is ISO 100, daylight, reversal, E6 process, a reengineered emulsion based on IMATION ScotchChrome 100, whose datasheet is available on the net
- They will be able to offer other emulsions on the future, mainly ISO 400 and a pushable ISO 800 film, all E6
- Plus, most likely, an emulsion based on Solaris 100 FG Plus (color negative film)
- Formats, for starters, are 135, 120, 8mm, and 16mm movie film
- They have the ability to manufacture 127, 126 film, and will probably do it
- They want to keep this effort sustainable "for the next 100 years"
- Factory is in Italy, downsized to a reasonable scale of production.
- Original engineers of 3M/Ferrania are working on the project
- Ferrania has presence in APUG as the user "FILMFerrania" who is Dave Bias

also

- we asked for rare film formats and specialist emulsions
- we posted about Kodachrome and blah blah blah K-14 blah blah Nice colors blah blah Paul Simon blah blah blah Afghan Girl it blah blah blah blah Archival stability blah blah blah blah Sharpness blah blah blah blah Complex process blah blah blah blah Dwayne's blah blah blah blah...

Finally

- we generally gave Dave Bias a hard time with a truckload of off topic posts, yet he came back to keep reading and posting nicely and answering all our requests, in the most masochistic way.

This is the thread, in short.

Thanks for the summery Flavio81 I hadn't seen it.

StoneNYC · Dec 3, 2014

flavio81 said:
Dwayne's?

You mean DWAYNE'S the last ones to be capable of processing... ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZpaNJqF4po

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What the heck is that second image, it's weird and digital...

StoneNYC · Dec 3, 2014

Scanning E-6 is only hard when you didn't expose it right.

blockend · Dec 4, 2014

Maybe my scanning skills aren't up to the demands of slides, because they don't have any of the presence on a laptop screen that they do projected on a wall. 35mm transparencies require projection in a darkened room to make sense.

Xmas · Dec 4, 2014

Mounted or unmounted they should scan ok.
Even ones underexpose a stop or so.
But you need to go advanced for Kchrome to inhibit IR ICE.
The file can be sent to pro lab or gilee printed on any photo quality paper.
You can get suitcase back projection projectors, which double as normal projectors in small rooms with several king size bed sheets stapled gunned to far wall, (they have shirt focal length lenses) .

StoneNYC · Dec 4, 2014

Okay guys let's reel it back in, we're way off track now...

David A. Goldfarb · Dec 4, 2014

In New York I generally used Duggal until we moved at the end of last year. Now in Honolulu, I ship to The Icon in LA. There are a couple of local labs, but the turnaround time at one is about 2 weeks, and at another the price is double what it is in LA, so it pays to ship.

Ken Nadvornick · Dec 4, 2014

How about APUG advertiser Blue Moon Camera and Machine?

Semi-local to me down in Portland, Oregon. In house small batch runs. I have sent them 120 E-6 with excellent results. They are the only lab to have ever called me up after receiving my order, but before processing it, just to make sure they were clear on what I wanted. They do 35mm up to 4x5.

(Real soon now they are also going to get an immaculate 1938 Remington Noiseless portable typewriter from me for a full servicing. Where else can you send someone a roll of E-6 film from an antique camera for processing and an antique typewriter for a full CLA? How cool is that business model?)

Ken

RattyMouse · Dec 4, 2014

To develop all my color film including E-6, I use Mr. Film. Very professional staff that does excellent work.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-2377886073.13.52FPGY&id=1760434544

analoguey · Dec 5, 2014

Labs -

1.Surinder Patel in Ahmedabad, Gujarat does pretty good work with it. (that's where my E6 goes)
He also does pretty decent c41/bw and okayish scans.

2. Idea creative in Mumbai, has some decent processing, but he said he's running short on e6 chemicals last month.

Re tie-Up with Tetenal & Ferrania - Dave, if your reading this and do get in touch with Tetenal -that would be great! I'll look forward to doing E6 myself!
(Tetenal India are being circumspect w supply but drive from customers and film suppliers might just do it!)

cmacd123 · Dec 5, 2014

I do hope that everyone who has been posting Lab sugestons here is also filling in the form on FF website.... and asking their Labs to also provide contact info where given so that FF can contact them.

Ken Nadvornick · Dec 5, 2014

I did fill it out, yes.

Ken

NJH · Dec 6, 2014

I filled it out. These guys http://www.snapsphotoservices.com over in Bournemouth have done everything film for me the past year, C-41, B&W in ID-11 and lastly the Velvia 50 you can see on my flickr page.

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