Hmm - well that sounds interesting - who pays for the new meters that make this work? Even so, this just evens out demand - it doesn't necessarily reduce total consumption.
Hmm - well I see a couple of problems with this - varying the price of electricity based on the time of day would be a bit difficult - consider how your electric meter works. Even if you could do that, all you would achieve is evening out demand throughout the day - you wouldn't reduce total consumption.
The meters are cheap; the technology commonplace.
Improved efficiency is the primary step to reducing total consumption from current levels - which BTW, was the core point of the original argument in favor of switching to CF bulbs.
But you seem more intent on proving a point, whether correct or not, than learning from others.
Kind of common here - now what was your complaint about Andy?
'Nuff said - leaving thread.....
Economy 7 and 10 meters are a waste of time. You pay less for using electricity during off peak times, but actually pay a higher rate for your daytime use. Unless your a night shift worker, who starts their washing and cooking at 1230am each day, go ahead and have that meter installed. They are not going to save the planet though.
I don't have a Day/Night meter, I was just pointing out that they are common over here.
I have not bought into any propaganda. I have made up my own mind. I do not believe climate change is caused by man, for these reasons:
1. The total volume of atmospheric CO2 makes up 0.054% of the atmosphere. Of that 0.054% human activities contribute less than 1%. So restricting our choices, forcing us to use poisonous appliances, raising taxes in the name of the environment will have no effect on climate change. You might as well tell Amazonian natives not to piss in the Amazon in case they make it flood.
2. Atmospheric CO2 is a result of global warming, not a cause of global warming. The temperature rises and then the amount of atmospheric CO2 rises. If it was the other way round global temperatures would have risen steadily throughout the 20th century, but they didn't. In fact from 1940 to the late 70s global temperatures fell, for four consecutive decades and all the talk was of a coming ice age.
3. The green movement is no longer about the environment, it is about removing freedom of choice from the majority. It is about the politics of envy and spite. When I call them the Eco-Taliban I do so because that is exactly what they have become, a Taliban who will brook no disagreement against their great god Seotu, and who will vilify anyone who disputes their propaganda.
Will NASA's figures do? Heres a graph of land ocean temperatures over the last 120 odd years. See the dip from 1940 to the late 70s? Thats the myth you refer to.
Lots of use of the word 'likely' in your piece I see.
I don't dispute the climate is warming a little, but I do dispute the argument that it is man made.
Global warming debunked.
I like Hillary - and will likely vote for her in our NYS primary and, if she gets the nomination, in the general election in November 2008.
But, as one can see, she is a "lightening rod" for a lot of folk - including Dave. Sadly, over the next fourteen months certain folk will blame Hillary for everything and anything including their pet that gets run over and the rain that spoils their Sunday picnic! :rolleyes:
Goodness no....I am waiting for Al to throw his hat in the ring.
Whichever side you believe in, it's hard to trust any scientist. They will write any old paper for whatever political agenda as long as they secure some funding to keep themselves in a temporary job.
With a planet waxing and waning out of ice ages long before humans appeared on the planet and something as colossal as the sun fluctuating in temperature, exploding massive energy towards our planet and a neighbouring planet which turned to red dust, it seems ridiculous that tiny creatures from termites to humans have been blamed for such spectacular events.
Whichever side you believe in, it's hard to trust any scientist. They will write any old paper for whatever political agenda as long as they secure some funding to keep themselves in a temporary job.
With a planet waxing and waning out of ice ages long before humans appeared on the planet and something as colossal as the sun fluctuating in temperature, exploding massive energy towards our planet and a neighbouring planet which turned to red dust, it seems ridiculous that tiny creatures from termites to humans have been blamed for such spectacular events.
'Most climatologists believe it is caused by human activities' but they don't know for certain do they?
In the meantime the Third World is being denied the chance to industrialise because the Eco-Taliban have made 'clean' manufacturing too expensive for them. So half the world continues to live in squalor thanks to the greens. Also billions of mercury containing lightbulbs are about to be forced into use, putting mercury pollution into the food chain on a global scale.
Here's another nail in the coffin of manmade global warming: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1368920.ece
Dr Svensmark suggests that the Sun, at a historically high level of activity, is deflecting many of the cosmic rays away from Earth and thus reducing the cloud cover.
I have not bought into any propaganda. I have made up my own mind. I do not believe climate change is caused by man, for these reasons:
1. The total volume of atmospheric CO2 makes up 0.054% of the atmosphere. Of that 0.054% human activities contribute less than 1%. So restricting our choices, forcing us to use poisonous appliances, raising taxes in the name of the environment will have no effect on climate change. You might as well tell Amazonian natives not to piss in the Amazon in case they make it flood.
2. Atmospheric CO2 is a result of global warming, not a cause of global warming. The temperature rises and then the amount of atmospheric CO2 rises. If it was the other way round global temperatures would have risen steadily throughout the 20th century, but they didn't. In fact from 1940 to the late 70s global temperatures fell, for four consecutive decades and all the talk was of a coming ice age.
3. The green movement is no longer about the environment, it is about removing freedom of choice from the majority. It is about the politics of envy and spite. When I call them the Eco-Taliban I do so because that is exactly what they have become, a Taliban who will brook no disagreement against their great god Seotu, and who will vilify anyone who disputes their propaganda.
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