Fastest 4x5" Film - B&W - push it reeeaal good

BetterSense · Apr 13, 2011

They already did drop Tri-X in sheets, years ago. I have no special connection to TXP; I can get that look by underexposing TMY a stop or two and using HC110. I definitely hope TMY is the last film to go. It's the film I use in everything from my Pen to my 4x5, and it's basically the best choice every step of the way, unless you actually want a slower film and don't like ND filters.

Thomas Bertilsson · Apr 13, 2011

jp498 said:
Honestly, I think due to TMY2's versatility, they'd dump Tri-X first.

Only Ilford has an ISO 400 fabricated grain film, (Delta 400), in addition to Kodak, and Kodak is the only one that offers it in sheets. Therefore it is in many ways unique. If I were in Kodak marketing I would draw very heavily on it as a differentiator. The same stunning TMax emulsion across formats from 35mm to 8x10.

It's the best film I've ever used. I only shoot 35mm, 120, and the odd sheet of 5x7. So I can't use it in sheets, unfortunately, as it isn't available in 5x7 size. I use HP5 for that.

- Thomas

holmburgers · Apr 13, 2011

This is a great discussion, I'm learning a lot!

TB, I think you're right about the "serious contenders". I think I'll experiment with my existing stock of TXP320 and see if the toe can be overcome, but after that I'll be going to HP5 probably.. but we'll see.

Now, side note about reversal processing... polygot's comment about base-fog is right I believe, but I'm not much more experienced, having only done it once, though I've been reading and consulting 'the oracles'. Since any base-fog will be subsequently bleached away, pushing RP results in low density positives. However, for my application this might be ok. See this thread... (there was a url link here which no longer exists)

Cheers y'all!

sandholm · Apr 14, 2011

hi

i forgot that the homepage filmdev homepage exist, here you can see the result of a film and developer, here is the 3200 result,
http://filmdev.org/recipe/search?search=3200

maybe you can get something useful

cheers

dr5chrome · Apr 14, 2011

hp5 @ 1600

(there was a url link here which no longer exists)

pgomena · Apr 14, 2011

In the days of press cameras, there was a reason for those big flash units.

Peter Gomena

greybeard · Apr 14, 2011

I know when it came out; that was my point. How many people shot Speed Graphics for newspapers in and after 1965? I would think not that many. Hence my calling them dinosaurs. And I did not mention TLRs.

Well, I did, although not often.

And I can tell you that most of us were plant-eaters, unlike what Hollywood would have you believe

lxdude · Apr 14, 2011

greybeard said:
I know when it came out; that was my point. How many people shot Speed Graphics for newspapers in and after 1965? I would think not that many. Hence my calling them dinosaurs. And I did not mention TLRs.

Well, I did, although not often.

And I can tell you that most of us were plant-eaters, unlike what Hollywood would have you believe

Only because press photogs were so poorly paid!

greybeard · Apr 16, 2011

Only because press photogs were so poorly paid!

That's wedding photographers that you are thinking of......

Rolleijoe · Apr 18, 2011

I used to shoot a lot of APX 400, that way could use the same emulsion across the board. I think the fastest LF 4x5 is the Rolleipan, can be pushed to 800 no problem I think, and then their IR 4x5 is actually an honest 400 speed if not shot with filters as IR film. Those would be the ones I would use. Never been happy with Tri=X 320. If Ilford XP2 Super was still available in 4x5, I'd quite like to have a go at that.

ic-racer · Apr 18, 2011

Of those listed T-max 400 in T-max developer probably is a little faster than ISO speed. But only 1/3 stop or less.

SWB · Aug 9, 2017

holmburgers said:
here's a really good example of HP5 @ 1600... http://www.flickr.com/photos/schlachet/5354201473/sizes/l/in/photostream/

I know this was a long time ago, but what chemistry did you use?

chassis · Aug 9, 2017

The caption on the image says:

Taken with a Crown Graphic. HP5+ at iso 1600, souped in Adonal 1+50 for 25 minutes.

Ian Grant · Aug 9, 2017

SWB said:
I know this was a long time ago, but what chemistry did you use?

He's not been on-line since August 2015.

I push processed some 5x4 HP5 exposed at 1600 EI last Autumn, I processed it in Pyrocat HD for about 30mins 1+1 to 100, I was rather surprised at the quality.

Ian

grommi · Aug 10, 2017

HP5+ goes very well @ 1600 in many developers, much better than (please forgive me) TriX. Please note that these are already high contrast subjects and not easy to handle landscapes under clouds. Here I used Emofin (discontinued), it is/was the best push developer, but Xtol will also do a great job. First on 6x9, second on 35 mm film.

Café Rossi by Imagesfrugales, on Flickr

HP5+ @ 1600 - Emofin by Imagesfrugales, on Flickr

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