Fake "Gold Leica" on eBay.

JPD · Feb 19, 2009

http://cgi.ebay.de/LEITZ-mit-Leitz-...286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:10|39:1|240:1318

The camera clearly is a Zorki that had it's chrome polished off, and fake "Leica" engravings added. The "gold" is brass... I have emailed the seller about it two times, plus reported it to eBay, but nothing happened. Maybe someone that can write german could email the seller and also report it?

ath · Feb 19, 2009

I reported it.

Leigh Youdale · Feb 23, 2009

I wouldn't get too excited about it - or you'll get yourself in a lather every week! these things keep coming out of the FSU and all sorts of exotic variants appear on EBay with great regularity.
I've just sold one the same that I bought a couple of years ago, thinking it might be a cheap way into Leica territory. Well, it was - I put one roll of film through it and went and bought a IIIf.
And now I've sold the fake for 2/3rds of what it cost me. Serves me right.

nemo999 · Feb 23, 2009

Listing now has the addition:
Der Verkäufer hat dieses Angebot beendet. (Näheres finden Sie unter Umständen in nachfolgender Artikelbeschreibung.)
The seller has terminated this listing. (Further details may be given in the article description below) [they aren't]

I don't think this type of thing does much harm - no, it isn't a Leica, no, it isn't gold, but anyone who believed it was would deserve to lose their money.

walter23 · Feb 23, 2009

ath said:
I reported it.

Caveat emptor applies.

These leica rip-offs are well known, quite common, and in some respects are considered collector's items in their own right. I'm not sure I appreciate you "reporting it". Some people are legitimately interested in buying these, believe it or not

Pete H · Feb 23, 2009

walter23 said:
Caveat emptor applies.

These leica rip-offs are well known, quite common, and in some respects are considered collector's items in their own right. I'm not sure I appreciate you "reporting it". Some people are legitimately interested in buying these, believe it or not

I doubt whether anyone would have an issue if it were sold as a "Leica copy". Advertising it as the real thing suggests an intent to deceive.

ath · Feb 23, 2009

walter23 said:
I'm not sure I appreciate you "reporting it". Some people are legitimately interested in buying these, believe it or not

Well, I understand that some people collect these. However this item was advertised as genuine Leitz camera which is simply wrong. I see only two reasons to do so: 1. he didn't know better and in this case he should be happy that someone told him so; 2. he wanted to get more money than it's worth. This is fraud.

If this item would have been described as "Leica copy" or "Fake Leica" everything would have been OK,

nicefor88 · May 2, 2009

You guys are all in the right. If someone wants to buy a copy, fake or make-believe, that's their right but adverts must not mislead and if intent to deceive is obvious then it should be reported. Ha!

archphoto · May 2, 2009

The item was pulled without a sale, so the guy learned his lesson.
2 May 2009

Peter

2F/2F · May 2, 2009

You nosey bastards just ruined my gold-plated one Euro Leica buying experience.

Lruw · May 4, 2009

Most of the ads I see mention that they're fake. Honestly, some of the fakes are pretty well refurbished in mechanics and appearance. It's no Leica, but they're not always the worst deal possible.

Fake "Gold Leica" on eBay.

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