Extra Frames on Olympus Mju II? Help Required.

pentaxuser · Dec 1, 2017

Thanks, Olyman, for the reply. As you say shorter backed compact waste less film but in the case of the Mju II the user needs to place the film flat between the rails and simply push it to the end of the rail whereupon closure of the back starts the wind mechanism. As Olympus knows the length of its camera back then you'd think if the camera senses that enough film has been pulled forward to engage the wind mechanism which seem to be the case then if it then relied on the signal from the code on the cassette it would always only allow enough film to pass through to cover 24/36 frames and no more. On that basis even if there was still slack in the cassette it would rewind once X inches of film had passed but as we know an extra frame or maybe more can be obtained which suggests to me that the rewind is based solely on a change of tension, as you say, and has no connection with frame coding at all

pentaxuser

OlyMan · Dec 1, 2017

Hi Pentaxuser, I think you over estimate how much 'intelligence' these cameras have. You're right that Mju II probably winds through a certain amount of film at the start, which is why I said 'especially the 35RC', because with very careful loading, you can minimise wasted film at the start.

MattKing · Dec 1, 2017

The "24 exposure" information incorporated in the DX code was probably used most by the automated processing machinery used by commercial labs.

MattKing · Dec 1, 2017

OlyMan said:
Hi Pentaxuser, I think you over estimate how much 'intelligence' these cameras have. You're right that Mju II probably winds through a certain amount of film at the start, which is why I said 'especially the 35RC', because with very careful loading, you can minimise wasted film at the start.

You need to change your signature line - need to add the family's new OM-40.
And just so you know, my "Olympus" list would read something like:
OM-2s (since the 1970s), OM-2n, OM-4T, an OM-G, formerly, an OM-1 and an OM-1n, an Olympus Trip 35, an Olympus Stylus, two T-32s, two T-20s, many Olympus OM lenses and many Olympus OM accessories.

shutterfinger · Dec 1, 2017

Film is longer than the specified frame number on the cassette to allow for the distance between the supply chamber and take up chamber difference of various cameras. My Yashica TL Electro had two dots before frame number 1 on the film counter. I routinely got 37 exposures with it and my Nikon F4 gives 37 exposures per 135-36 roll of film. The extra winds of manual 35mm cameras was to ensure that the first frame was not fogged.

removed account4 · Dec 1, 2017

Thomas Keidan said:
You're right, I'm sorry for bothering everyone!

you shouldn't worry about this sort of stuff
with someone who has never used a PS camera like
the one you have, wondering if stuff is working right
because the counter read more film that was in the spool
and you had trouble previously with winding too many exposures out of a
different roll of film/different camera .. ask as many questions as you want, there really is
no such thing as a dumb question just goofy-answers from people who might
have forgotten what it might have been like to not know, and they didn't have a
family member or friend back in the day, or a website to ask WTH is going on ...

have fun with your camera, its always a BONUS to get an extra frame or 2 like the film gods are smiling

Poisson Du Jour · Dec 1, 2017

jnanian said:
you shouldn't worry about this sort of stuff

with someone who has never used a PS camera like

the one you have, wondering if stuff is working right

because the counter read more film that was in the spool

and you had trouble previously with winding too many exposures out of a

different roll of film/different camera .. ask as many questions as you want, there really is

no such thing as a dumb question just goofy-answers from people who might

have forgotten what it might have been like to not know, and they didn't have a

family member or friend back in the day, or a website to ask WTH is going on ...

have fun with your camera, its always a BONUS to get an extra frame or 2 like the film gods are smiling

John! Now your sentences are not only running short and into each other with no sentence capitalisation, but they are now in bullet form!

removed account4 · Dec 2, 2017

Poisson Du Jour said:
John! Now your sentences are not only running short and into each other with no sentence capitalisation, but they are now in bullet form!

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ic-racer · Dec 2, 2017

Page 48 of the manual:

The camera automatically rewinds the film when you reach the end of the roll.

It senses that the film is tugging on the spool. If you had a 36 exposure roll, the mechanism that senses the end is faulty or the felt light trap too tight on the canister or the spool does not turn freely. That caused it to rewind too soon.

AgX · Dec 2, 2017

It senses that the film does not move although the motor is in advance.

OlyMan · Dec 4, 2017

MattKing said:
You need to change your signature line - need to add the family's new OM-40.
And just so you know, my "Olympus" list would read something like:
OM-2s (since the 1970s), OM-2n, OM-4T, an OM-G, formerly, an OM-1 and an OM-1n, an Olympus Trip 35, an Olympus Stylus, two T-32s, two T-20s, many Olympus OM lenses and many Olympus OM accessories.

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