Expired Orwo NP20 stored in an attic

Michael L.

May I please join your group, be educated about the treatment of expired film, and share my own experiences with you? And could the below contribution about old GDR film serve as my ticket of admission?

Several APUG threads already deal with developing expired films, but mostly it is assumed that such films have been kept frozen or at least suitably cool. The following remarks may be of interest to members or guests who find themselves possessed of old B&W films which have been less adequately stored.

Feeling concerned about waste and being in a nostalgic mood, I recently picked up a number of 35mm Orwo NP20 films, expired in 1989 and stored throughout at ambient temperature in a loft. Expecting seriously lessened sensitivity, I experimentally exposed half a roll at ISO 32 and developed it in R09 (1+40) for 10 minutes at 20°C as per the instructions for this 20 DIN/80 ASA film in GDR photo handbooks.
The resulting negatives were disappointingly thin with much loss of shadow detail; nice fine grain, though.

With film speed this severely reduced, the remaining NP20 rolls obviously would be good for bright, sunny days only, none too frequent at our latitude. Or so I concluded at first, but then I remembered a 30+ years old (600cc) packet of Microphen lying in the junk drawer, still looking good, and decided to try it on the second half of the NP20 roll. I made some hasty new test shots at the rated 20 DIN/80 ASA and developed the film (as per The MDC) for 8 minutes in undiluted Microphen, and lo and behold: out came a strip of perfectly usable negatives with satisfactory midtones, good detail in both highlights and shadows, and very little perceptible fogging. If anything, the negatives were a mite too dense and contrasty, so I could probably have set the meter to 100 ASA and even reduced the development time.

Quite a lot of film (both as rolls and in bulk) from the Wolfen plant is regularly on offer on various auction sites. It seems to me that with results as encouraging as these it would be a pity to let it all go to waste, even if it wasn't professionally stored for the past 25 years. Of course, the development process for such films must be fine-tuned; I look forward to your suggestions.

The scans posted in the pictures section were made from prints of some of the test shots (incidentally, the prints were made on expired Orwo baryta paper, grade "normal"). The scanner used is an age-old mediocre flatbed, but hopefully you will nevertheless get a fair impression of how well the Orwo film has stood up to the Toll of Time. I have done nothing at all to the scans; you may have to make them a little bit darker to match your monitor's display to the original prints.

Comments, please?

Regards,
Michael
 

pentaxpete

Very WELCOME to another 'Expired Film Fan' !! -- Yes-- I looked at your print scans -- amazing that your ORWO paper was not fogged to grey like MINE -- I have quite a lot left over purchased before the British importers 'BYMAIL Ltd' went broke when Germany was re-unified and the East Germans had to pay West German wages and my ORWO BH paper is grey-- I just did some prints on it about three days ago -- even with 1% Benzotriazole added the to the D72 print developer it had 'gone off' BUT my 1993 ORWO NP22 120 rollfilm is still useable. I developed my NP22 in 'Promicrol 1+14'
Good to see someone else submitting photos to this Group -- keep it up !
Best Wishes from Peter.
 
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Michael L.

Peter, thanks very much for the hearty welcome. I look forward to benefiting from wise words and counsel from you and other members of this group, and I would dearly like to emulate the great tonal scale of the b&w prints you have posted here.
I'm glad to learn that I'm not the only one to enjoy shooting expired Orwo film; it does indeed have remarkable keeping properties, and prints of NP20 and NP22 negatives often have a charming "old world" look - perhaps due to a colour sensitisation slightly different to that of modern films? Further scans of shots made on Orwo film will be forthcoming as I unearth suitable pics. Thank you for your tip about Promicrol; the (sadly very few) Danish analog photo suppliers don't stock this developer, so I shall have to find a source for it abroad.
A note on the Orwo paper: I made my first prints back in the early 1970s. Being an impecunious student, I could only rarely spare the money for "real" printing paper, so I mostly used Orwo's excellent and affordable single-weight "Dokumentenpapier"; hence my nostalgic fondness for products from the Orwo plant. It was a pretty hard/contrasty paper, but adjusting the negative development and diluting the paper developer remedied that sufficiently for my amateur purposes.
I have lately been lucky enough to acquire a considerable quantity of various Orwo printing paper, and most of it seems to perform satisfactorily. As was to be expected, some of the hard and extra-hard grades have softened a little, but so far only a packet or two has shown benzotriazole-resistant fogging as in your own case; overall the paper has weathered well and is perfectly useable still. I'm told that the surprisingly good keeping properties of the old GDR papers are due to the cadmium stabilisation employed in their manufacture. It is a great pity that you have been less fortunate with your Orwo BH grade.
Regards, and best wishes for the new year,
Michael
 
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